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Old 11-22-04, 02:43 PM   #1
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Too much milk?

I love this new ultra skim milk that tastes like 2%. Seems to me that skim milk is an excellent source of low fat protein, but for some reason it doesn't get a lot of "publicity". Can you drink too much milk? I mean, aside from people that are lactate intolerant, are there any downsides to drinking a lot of milk?
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it gives me really bad oesophageal reflux- I never drink it last thing at night as I dont enjoy choking to death
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Old 11-22-04, 04:08 PM   #3
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it thickens up my phlegm too much... i used to drink it by the gallon...now, only a little bit with my cereal.
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Old 11-22-04, 04:22 PM   #4
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Oops I meant to say LACTOSE intolerant, not LACTATE intolerant!!!!
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I don't really see any problem with it. The biggest problem with milk is all the fat in it, but remove the fat and it seems ok to me.

You could be drinking worse, that's for sure.
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What about the hormones and stuff that farmers give their cows? I'm sure that affects you somehow.

BTW I like milk too. If it's a hot day I can easily down a gallon of milk in one day.
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I can't see any downsides and that's why I use milk as one of my major sources of protein. BTW, has anyone ever drank an entire gallon in on sitting? I know people say it's impossible, but my brother drank 3/4 of a gallon once and didn't vommit ( he felt pretty bad though). He had to stop drinking because the milk was cold (taken right out of the fridge) and he started to shiver violently.
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Old 11-23-04, 08:29 AM   #8
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What about the hormones and stuff that farmers give their cows? I'm sure that affects you somehow.
It cost a little more, but you can buy certified organic milk.
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Old 11-23-04, 09:49 AM   #9
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I used to drink a TON of milk when I was in high school. The doc told me that I should cut back because I was getting heavy calcium deposits in my urine which could cause kidney or bladder stones. I had gone in because I thought I had a bladder infection, but he said it was all the calcium, and every since I cut back it has been much better.
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1 Gallon of Milk ingested in one hour is near impossible....your stomach acids turn the milk into cheese...and you throw up..

Only guy I've ever seen do it chugged a quart at the beginning, then, with seconds to spare, chugged the rest, and vomitted after the hour had expired...and even used a packet of Tums to help reduce acid...
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There's blood and puss in milk.
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How about goat milk. The fat groups in goat milk are smaller and easier to digest. It's really better for you then cows milk.

THe hormone problem with commercial milk is outragious, (try Jersey milk). Blood and puss in milk is caused by mastitous (sp) and lack of quality control in large dairy operations.
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Got Puss?
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Builds mucus, brings out allergies
Breast or Prostate cancer
Acne
etc.
http://www.milksucks.com/more.html

Obviously the above website is biased (as am I), but it's at least worth a read.
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I love this new ultra skim milk that tastes like 2%. Seems to me that skim milk is an excellent source of low fat protein, but for some reason it doesn't get a lot of "publicity". Can you drink too much milk? I mean, aside from people that are lactate intolerant, are there any downsides to drinking a lot of milk?
Yes, one can drink too much milk. There are much better sources of low fat protein, namely fruits and vegetables. There are many things in milk that you probably don't want in your body if you're looking for optimal performance.

We have an article on our website here:
http://www.organicathlete.org/index....d=89&Itemid=69

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Old 11-24-04, 06:38 PM   #16
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Puss, blood, and hormones.....yuck! It does make me think twice about how much I drink. And I dont think I'd be able to drink a gallon in one sitting no matter how thirsty I was, I dont think my stomach is that big! I do appreciate the input and plan to read more on this topic.

Which fruits and veggies contain the most protein?
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I also drink the same stuff, around here it's called Simply Smart.
They add some concentrated skim milk to skim. It has a lot of protein. You don't need huge amounts of protein, but I don't see where an occasional glass would hurt.
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Puss, blood, and hormones.....yuck! It does make me think twice about how much I drink.

Which fruits and veggies contain the most protein?
Meat has lots of blood and hormones and fat - I don't know about puss! Folks who like their meat rare are eating (drinking?) almost raw animal blood!
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There's blood and puss in milk.
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Meat has lots of blood and hormones and fat - I don't know about puss! Folks who like their meat rare are eating (drinking?) almost raw animal blood!
Mmmmmm, warm animal flesh. Like a fresh kill in the wild, only served with potatoes

So all of you milk haters, what do you think of breast feeding (a topic somewhat on the mind as two of my sisters just had kids)?
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It cost a little more, but you can buy certified organic milk.
According to my nutritionist wife, there is no such thing as certified organic anything (in Canada anyway). There are lots of products that claim to be but since there is no regulating body it is simply their own definition.
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So all of you milk haters, what do you think of breast feeding (a topic somewhat on the mind as two of my sisters just had kids)?
breast milk is designed by nature for nourishing human infants until they're developed enough to eat otherwise. cow milk is designed by nature for nourishing infant cows until they're developed enough to graze on their own. when i was a baby, i was breast fed. since i'm not a cow, and certainly not a calf, you won't see me drinking cow's milk. and since i'm an adult, you won't see me breast-feeding either.

most of the world, outside of america, is lactose-intolerant. there's a reason for that: cow's milk isn't designed for humans. we've been "force-fed" so much milk that we've developed an adaptation to it. but adaptation doesn't mean it's good for you. again, most humans are lactose-intolerant - we're not designed for drinking cows milk. however, many cultures have modified milk through fermentation via particular bacteria that do make milk beneficial and digestible: yogurt, kefir, etc.

in the end, who knows? if it works for you, go for it...personally, milk makes me feel awful. i hate the taste, i get mucousy in the throat, and i get other symptoms...everything i've read (and i've read a lot) says that milk does me more harm than good and the good that it might do for me, i can get via other foods.

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I used to drink tons of milk, and then gave it up for a few months because of sickness. I got in the habit of drinking soy milk (which is also a great source of protein), and haven't had milk for 6 years. It might be just coincidence, but I my sinuses are MUCH healthier and I almost never get sick any more.
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I have only had soy and rice milk in the last 7 years. No animal milk for the above reasons.
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Puss, blood, and hormones.....yuck! It does make me think twice about how much I drink. And I dont think I'd be able to drink a gallon in one sitting no matter how thirsty I was, I dont think my stomach is that big! I do appreciate the input and plan to read more on this topic.

Which fruits and veggies contain the most protein?
Cereals and grains, nuts, beans, lentils, peas, leafy vegetables (darker the better).
Soy bean products such at tempeh and tofu.
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