Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Training & Nutrition Learn how to develop a training schedule that's good for you. What should you eat and drink on your ride? Learn everything you need to know about training and nutrition here.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-13-04, 03:50 AM   #1
Crunkologist
Stegosaurus
Thread Starter
 
Crunkologist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Goa, India
Bikes: 2004 Giant OCR-3
Posts: 1,530
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Winstrol and Cycling

Anyone ever taken Winstrol for cycling endurance? Just how much did it help?
Crunkologist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-04, 05:26 AM   #2
FXjohn
Banned.
 
FXjohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: NE Indiana
Bikes:
Posts: 12,901
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 803 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crunkologist
Anyone ever taken Winstrol for cycling endurance? Just how much did it help?
winstrol tastes good, like a steroid should
FXjohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-04, 08:16 AM   #3
jarhead#42
Senior Member
 
jarhead#42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 830
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Winstrol is an anabolic .. may help in sprints .. probably would put some weight on .. why not just take EPO if you like endurance ?

Last edited by jarhead#42; 12-13-04 at 03:42 PM.
jarhead#42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-04, 09:13 PM   #4
beaterbike
Member
 
beaterbike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 39
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Don't take that crap. Why would you even consider it?

Just askin'
beaterbike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-04, 09:32 PM   #5
Crunkologist
Stegosaurus
Thread Starter
 
Crunkologist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Goa, India
Bikes: 2004 Giant OCR-3
Posts: 1,530
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Winstrol is an anabolic that results in mucho RBCs, as well as helping you to preserve lean mass and develop those cycling muscles whilst cutting the pudge. One would take it, and not EPO because... one has a 6 week supply of it sitting around from another life?

Anyone?
Crunkologist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-04, 09:41 PM   #6
beaterbike
Member
 
beaterbike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 39
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
It's pretty sad that someone would resort to drugs that can damage your liver (among other organs) to gain a temporary edge. It's stupid and insane.
beaterbike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-04, 10:20 PM   #7
Chongo
Senior Member
 
Chongo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Bikes: Russ Denny custom
Posts: 233
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Winstrol is another name for the anabolic steroid stanazolol. I weight 125lbs, so I obviously haven't taken it. I prefer to get my butt kicked in races without pharmaceutical help. Why do you want to take illegal drugs? Bragging rights at the local crit?
Chongo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-04, 10:50 PM   #8
Chongo
Senior Member
 
Chongo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Bikes: Russ Denny custom
Posts: 233
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crunkologist
Winstrol is an anabolic that results in mucho RBCs, as well as helping you to preserve lean mass and develop those cycling muscles whilst cutting the pudge. One would take it, and not EPO because... one has a 6 week supply of it sitting around from another life?

Anyone?
Anabolic steroids don't increase your red blood cell count. You're confusing it with EPO and related RBC boosters. Before you take something, you should know what is does both long and short term. BTW, if they are so great for you, don't you think DRs would be recommending them for every one. Look up the negative effects of anabolics.
Chongo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-04, 11:10 PM   #9
Crunkologist
Stegosaurus
Thread Starter
 
Crunkologist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Goa, India
Bikes: 2004 Giant OCR-3
Posts: 1,530
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Again, I'm not looking for moral outrage or advice on whether to take it. And I am more than familiar with the side effects of anabolics.

Chongo: Some anabolic/androgenic steroids, most notably winstrol, increase RBCs. And you might well weigh 125 pounds and take winstrol, and not put on any weight.

I was looking for personal experience, but obviously noone that has any is gonna fess up. Teh end.
Crunkologist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-04, 12:15 AM   #10
Chongo
Senior Member
 
Chongo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Bikes: Russ Denny custom
Posts: 233
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Crunkologist, anabolics can increase RBC count in anemic people, but there's no legimate mainstream studies that show it appreciably increases the RBC of healthy people. The sources that cite huge RBC increase are non-scientific wacky bodybuilding sites that seem to take rumor and anecdotal reports as fact.
Chongo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-04, 08:06 AM   #11
Phatman
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: NC
Bikes:
Posts: 3,411
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
there was another thread that discussed steriods and whatnot...I cant really remeber where it was. theres a website full of bodybuilders (who probably wont live past 40...) that has a lot of discussions about winstrol and other sterioids. www.elitefitness.com I'm not encouraging it...but it seems that winstrol is used during the cutting process of bodybuilding, where bodybuilders try to lose as much fat as possible while maintaining all of their size...so concievably, it could help you lose some bodyfat.

but...wouldn't you rather just get better on your own? It seems that using steriods is kinda like using cheat codes...sure you win the game...but it sort of cheapens the whole experience.
Phatman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-04, 09:18 AM   #12
FXjohn
Banned.
 
FXjohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: NE Indiana
Bikes:
Posts: 12,901
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 803 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phatman

but...wouldn't you rather just get better on your own? It seems that using steriods is kinda like using cheat codes...sure you win the game...but it sort of cheapens the whole experience.
That would require a sense of decency or a set of personal morals.
FXjohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-04, 09:54 PM   #13
Crunkologist
Stegosaurus
Thread Starter
 
Crunkologist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Goa, India
Bikes: 2004 Giant OCR-3
Posts: 1,530
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by FXjohn
That would require a sense of decency or a set of personal morals.
And at this time, the pompous, condescending troll may lick my balls. I don't compete, so there is no moral concern
Crunkologist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-04, 10:56 PM   #14
Chongo
Senior Member
 
Chongo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Bikes: Russ Denny custom
Posts: 233
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Dude, I think that you're BSing us about this topic. If you're not, it's up to you if you want your nads to shrink to the size of dried peas.
Chongo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-04, 02:40 PM   #15
Crunkologist
Stegosaurus
Thread Starter
 
Crunkologist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Goa, India
Bikes: 2004 Giant OCR-3
Posts: 1,530
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thats fine, and I'm okay with someone deleting this topic since there is no information coming. Winstrol is not a substance that you would take long term, and it is also not one that leads to testicular atrophy.
Crunkologist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-04, 08:23 PM   #16
jarhead#42
Senior Member
 
jarhead#42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 830
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Anabolics seem to distrupt endocrine function. hence the need to cycle on and off I do consider EPO a natural horemone that when taken as an anti aging factor is extremely helpful to the person who takes it.. I saw ben johnson run that record breaking hundred awhile ago .. maybe it does increse RBC . But there is no comparing it ti epo I feel .
jar
jarhead#42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-04, 08:38 PM   #17
Crunkologist
Stegosaurus
Thread Starter
 
Crunkologist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Goa, India
Bikes: 2004 Giant OCR-3
Posts: 1,530
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Yeah, wasn't Ben Johnson on Winstrol? Whats more, its used to treat anemia. Androgens regulate erythropoiesis. But no, there's no money in studying performance-enhancement uses.

AAS will certainly disrupt endogenous testosterone production... but then, you can only take Winstrol for 4-6 weeks anyway, because of concerns over its hepatoxicity (sp?). And there are numerous ways of restoring normal endocrine function.
Crunkologist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-04, 08:43 PM   #18
jarhead#42
Senior Member
 
jarhead#42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 830
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I did check out winstrol . If I would take a anobolic.. it would definetly be winstrol . Right now Im playing it by ear.. Using rHGH and epo
jarhead#42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-04, 10:41 PM   #19
Crunkologist
Stegosaurus
Thread Starter
 
Crunkologist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Goa, India
Bikes: 2004 Giant OCR-3
Posts: 1,530
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Are you really? How much HGH, and how often? And good lord, how much does it cost you?
Crunkologist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-04, 11:36 PM   #20
jarhead#42
Senior Member
 
jarhead#42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 830
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
4 dollars an iu . I use one IU a day as a medical treatment . I strongly feel anyone over 30 should be on this
jar
jarhead#42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-04, 11:39 PM   #21
karmical
THC Freedom Fighter
 
karmical's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: OaKsTeRdAm
Bikes:
Posts: 1,112
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jarhead#42
I strongly feel anyone over 30 should be on this
why?
karmical is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-04, 12:46 AM   #22
Crunkologist
Stegosaurus
Thread Starter
 
Crunkologist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Goa, India
Bikes: 2004 Giant OCR-3
Posts: 1,530
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by karmical
why?
After 30, natural levels of Human Growth Hormone fall. The idea is that if you supplement by injection, then you can extend your youth.
Crunkologist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-04, 01:11 PM   #23
beaterbike
Member
 
beaterbike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 39
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crunkologist
I was looking for personal experience, but obviously noone that has any is gonna fess up. Teh end.
Here's my personal experience. The vet gave it to my cat to help chronic wasting due to carcinoma of the intestines. Made the cat eat, but he died anyway. Winstrol is not a popular drug for human use. It's an older drug that has been replaced by much better compounds.
beaterbike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-04, 03:26 PM   #24
Crunkologist
Stegosaurus
Thread Starter
 
Crunkologist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Goa, India
Bikes: 2004 Giant OCR-3
Posts: 1,530
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
NOOOooooooo, KITTY!
Crunkologist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-04, 11:53 AM   #25
jarhead#42
Senior Member
 
jarhead#42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 830
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
All I can say that it has cured my severe whiplash injury and brought my knee back to life .. Torn acl .. broken bones and badly torn cartalage .. Now I dont limp no more... not even going up stairs
jar
jarhead#42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:35 AM.