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    I had my VO2 max measured...

    ...and I have to say that I'm pretty disappointed. I have been fairly sedentary (Who am I kidding? Ive been a couch potato since New Year's), so I wasn't expecting much going into the whole deal. We did the test and I topped out at 375 watts, 188 bpm, and 61.9 VO2. The guy doing the tests said that I could probably raise that by about 10-15% through training, but that still seems awfully low. So, to anyone else who has had his or her VO2 max measured, how did you do? and is this whole 10-15% idea correct?
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    I wish my baseline was as good as yours! My numbers, after many years of inactivity, were 350 watts, 181 bpm, and 53.9 VO2max. Of course, my name is Fred and I'm 43.
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    Is it expensive to get it done? and where can you get it done?
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    The cardiologist that I saw charges $900 for the test that included max hr, VO2max, lactate threshhold, lung volume, exhalation rate, etc., etc., plus a blood test with a complete report.
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    does insurance take care of any of it
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    Mine took care of all of it after I satisfied my annual deductible.
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    I got paid to do it through a study at Ball State University. They're having me come back and do leg extension lifts on Friday, then a muscle biopsy on Wednesday.
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    Yikes!

    That's a lot of money for a VO2 max test. I had the same tests done and paid half price (since I was an employee of the club when the folks came to town with the equipment). It was $80 for me, and $175 for members.

    With training, which includes base, endurance, and then aerobic capacity, there's no reason why VO2 max can't be raised. It's not bad at all... the results you got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpohl
    I got paid to do it through a study at Ball State University. They're having me come back and do leg extension lifts on Friday, then a muscle biopsy on Wednesday.

    Muscle biopsy......I don't envy that one bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpohl
    ...and I have to say that I'm pretty disappointed. I have been fairly sedentary (Who am I kidding? Ive been a couch potato since New Year's), so I wasn't expecting much going into the whole deal. We did the test and I topped out at 375 watts, 188 bpm, and 61.9 VO2. The guy doing the tests said that I could probably raise that by about 10-15% through training, but that still seems awfully low. So, to anyone else who has had his or her VO2 max measured, how did you do? and is this whole 10-15% idea correct?
    For those of us who don't always follow that stats... Why were you disappointed? Were number were you expecting? (What's considered "good"?) If I did that, I would mostly be interested in repeating the tests after some amount of training to see if it was progressing (or regressing...)

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    I'm a Navy Diver and participated in a research study at the university on fitness of Canadian Forces Diver's. I was actually PAID to have my max VO2 measured, $100! The test was a month ago when I was about at my laziest in the year, but I was still fairly active. Max BPM was 201, max VO2 was 68.7. I was pretty happy with the results. I'll be re-tested in the spring and I hope to break 70.
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    Male (values in ml/kg/min)

    Age Very Poor Poor Fair Good Excellent Superior
    13-19 [<35.0] [35.0 - 38.3] [38.4 - 45.1] [45.2 - 50.9] [51.0 - 55.9] [>55.9]
    20-29 [<33.0] [33.0 - 36.4] [36.5 - 42.4] [42.5 - 46.4] [46.5 - 52.4] [>52.4]
    30-39 [<31.5] [31.5 - 35.4] [35.5 - 40.9] [41.0 - 44.9] [45.0 - 49.4] [>49.4]
    40-49 [<30.2] [30.2 - 33.5] [33.6 - 38.9] [39.0 - 43.7] [43.8 - 48.0] [>48.0]
    50-59 [<26.1] [26.1 - 30.9] [31.0 - 35.7] [35.8 - 40.9] [41.0 - 45.3] [>45.3]
    60+ [<20.5] [20.5 - 26.0] [26.1 - 32.2] [32.3 - 36.4] [36.5 - 44.2] [>44.2]

    Table Reference: The Physical Fitness Specialist Certification Manual, The Cooper Institute for Aerobics Research, Dallas TX, revised 1997 printed in Advance Fitness Assessment & Exercise Prescription, 3rd Edition, Vivian H. Heyward, 1998.p48


    According to this I'm "Superior"!!

    Of course you other guys are "Super Human"!
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    Just for fun, I'll add that Lance Armstrong's is 84 and Miguel Indurain was an unheard of 92 or 93.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzy_cyclist
    For those of us who don't always follow that stats... Why were you disappointed? Were number were you expecting? (What's considered "good"?) If I did that, I would mostly be interested in repeating the tests after some amount of training to see if it was progressing (or regressing...)
    Well, I guess looking at that chart, I'm pretty happy with the results. I barely qualififed for the study, which was for elite cyclists only, whatever that means. I guess they needed at least a 60. I did the leg extensions today, which was really easy. I'm terrified of the muscle biopsy, but I've heard that it's not too, too bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpohl
    I'm terrified of the muscle biopsy, but I've heard that it's not too, too bad.
    Yeah, be worried, they're gonna cut you up alive...

    On another thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpohl
    We did the test and I topped out at 375 watts, 188 bpm, and 61.9 VO2....and is this whole 10-15% idea correct?
    I'm curious how those numbers translate in power-to-weight ratio. How much do you weigh?

    That 10-15% improvement is an average, I believe. Some people don't improve at all with more training, but a few improve as much as 40%. This was the result of a study of sedentary people who were trained at 75% of MHR for 6 weeks.
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    I did weigh 157 at the end of last season. Right now, I hover between 168-171. 157 was awfully light for someone 6 feet tall with my build. I'd like to stay around 165-167 if I can this season.

    I'm thinking that I could have easily hit the low 70's had I done that test mid-season last season. My last century for the year was 4 hours and 42 minutes on a solo effort. Now, my forty mile ride today has put in some pain tonight. I don't know... I guess it doesn't matter. I think we cyclists get fixated on numbers, since we don't get a whole lot of hard data to work with, other than avg. speeds (which mean nothing) and how we feel. He offered to do the test mid-season this year if I wanted. I probably will, and I'm interested to see how that turns out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpohl
    Right now, I hover between 168-171.
    Let me see, that puts your power-to-weight at VO2max at 4.9 W/kg. You must be pretty competitive in all but the big climbs.

    I'd like to get my LT power-to-weight up to 5 this year. It's stuck at about 4.6 right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrymorse
    Let me see, that puts your power-to-weight at VO2max at 4.9 W/kg. You must be pretty competitive in all but the big climbs.

    I'd like to get my LT power-to-weight up to 5 this year. It's stuck at about 4.6 right now.
    I'm glad you posted that, because I always thought of max wattage as what you could push at the very most. I've pushed almost 800 watts on a stationary bike before, but only for about 10 seconds. Given that, I was thinking about 10 W/kg, which doesn't even seem realistic when you think about it.

    Funny thing is that I was climbing Skyline Drive in Front Royal, VA over Christmas, and I didn't feel very strong at all. I guess a lot of climbing is learning technique, which isn't easy living in Indianapolis. But, man, did that first climb kill me, and I know guys who ride a lot less and do that climb easily. I wonder what gives with that.
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    Something else to keep things in perspective:

    Look at your signature. You've come a really long way. What would your VO2 have been even a year ago?

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    Am I reading that right? 340 to 160 in one year? How is that possible? Surgery?

    6' and 157 is skinny, but so am I at 5' 10" and 147! And I honestly don't look very skinny.
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    Nope, no surgery... Just a LOT of riding and eating right. I feel much better at 170 than I did at 160. I guess I'm at my ideal weight now.
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    So you lost 180 lbs in one year naturally? Forgive me if I find that hard to believe.
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    yep. somewhere here I posted my pics. I did take a chromium supplement for a few months, but I didn't notice any appreciable difference in weight loss with it. It really wasn't hard when I was riding 250+ miles per week and restricting calories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrymorse
    Let me see, that puts your power-to-weight at VO2max at 4.9 W/kg. You must be pretty competitive in all but the big climbs.

    I'd like to get my LT power-to-weight up to 5 this year. It's stuck at about 4.6 right now.
    I think your assumption of 375 watts at VO2max may be an overestimation. If this was preformed as a ramp test and 375 watts was the highest wattage achieved during the test (how I read it), that number or wattage is not representative of VO2max. Depending on testing protocol and the amount of time spent at each power level, it may not even be close.

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