Originally Posted by Black wallnut
And you even admit you attacked me in your very next sentence. Yay.
Yes I questioned your charcter
No substance? Ooooh-kay. And my merely saying Strava is nearly useless for training with power set you off.
and you opened that can of worms by posting in such shorthand opinion only without substance BS.
Really? Strava provides tracking for things like your best 20-min power over every single ride you have ever done?
You seem to think your thoughts and opinions are facts and yet they are just subjective opinion,
Golden Cheetah does that for free - both facts. Nothing subjective about it.
You want subjective? Strava is merely an e-wang tool for cat 6 racers that gets them to pay money by pandering to overly competitive impulses. It's like paying someone to give you a trophies for playing in sandlot football games or pickup basketball games.
And that opinion - backed by facts - seems to offend you for some reason.
and it seems poorly informed at that. For you and perhaps others Strava is not a serious training tool, yeah whatever.
No you didn't. Because the moment you saw something you didn't like you started with personal attacks against me and have devolved since then.
I came to this thread seeking knowledge about power and how it might help me.
I'm defensive? After starting in on this thread with a personal attack on me, this is how you respond? Grow up.
You sir on the other hand get all defensive when called on your assertions without any intellectual credibility
No, just you. And if the shoe fits...
and then call others ignorant.
So demonstrate some real knowledge about training with power.
You do not know me or what I know!
How could you possibly know? ESP? The voices in your head told you?
Your first reply to this thread is not directed towards the OP,
FWIW, you're wrong.
What planet did that get beamed into your head from? Not one with a blue sky, I'd bet. Someone posted they don't use power, and my next post is a short one mentioning two tools for power analysis with a recommendation not to use something like Strava because it's almost useless compared to a dedicated training-with-power tool? Who else could that have been direct to other than the OP?
perhaps it is directed towards the second post that just happens to say that he is not using power
You've posted absolutely nothing constructive, just personal attacks against me wrapped in defensive rants.
and yet you think I have no place in this forum
Does that have a place?
If you don't know what they are, how do you know they're trademarked?
if I do not know what a list of trademarked acronyms are, seriously.
And if you don't know what they mean, you have no business making a recommendation on what tool to use when training with power. That's like a clam telling a bird how to fly.
Hence my claim you're posting from ignorance. Glad you admit it.
You seem to be the only one with his panties in a wad.
Back the hell up pilgrim! Qualify your comments a little better and objectively read what you are posting with another's perspective.
Again - why would anyone spend money on a tool when a better tool is free?
A reading of your post is You like FREE, FREE, and OH don't spend money on this.
And you post in a mocking tone, trying to make fun of me - a form of purely personal attack.
And for actually training with power? Strava isn't really all that useful when compared to other tools. Both free and not free.
I like free resources as well but I do not ever advocate for someone to not buy a subscription to support what they find useful.
The fact that there are some people who like it because it does what they want? Fine. Others who have posted here don't seem to be offended by my pointing out that there are serious free tools that objectively provide a lot more features than paid Strava.
You're the only one getting into a snit over that statement.
So you don't have a powermeter? You don't know what you can do with it?
Someday I'll buy a powermeter but only because I want to know what i can do,
Yet here you are attacking me over my recommendations? I have this image in my mind of a person born without legs screaming from the sidelines at a bunch of soccer players that they're playing the game all wrong.
Assuming you meant that you could not care less, that doesn't appear to be true when someone states that Strava power is just about useless for serious training with power when compared to tools designed specifically to do just that. Then you go berserk.
I really could care less how others are doing.
You seem to be doing a pretty good job right here.
I won enough races in my youth, now I only want to beat myself.