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    Senior Member Vlaam4ever's Avatar
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    Time for a new trainer

    Last week my 14-yr old, loud Nashbar magnetic trainer gave out. So it's time for a new on. I used my previous trainer set up primarily for recovery rides and clothes hanger. However I'd like to think I will use the trainer this more often it were not so overwhelmingly loud. Riding a trainer is difficult as it is, but the sound this thing made, made it a nightmare for my dog, neighbors and myself.

    My set up.
    I have a bock in the form of an old Calculus and an organic chemistry books to achieve the perfect height for my front wheel.
    A green Yoga mat that catches my water spills and sweat.
    A single speed Motobecane Cross bike that is a hair too small and has really bad brakes and wheels.
    54 inch TV w/remote.
    21 inch Imac
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    I also have a 14 year old high speed fan. This will also be replaced.

    So I'm looking for a quieter more realistic ride. A few have caught my eye but I'm confused on the various option priced between $300 and $500.

    Here are my initial contenders
    CycleOps Fluid 2 - $359

    Kurt Kinetic Road Machine - $349

    Does the Rock n roll make it better? What about the Various CycleOps What is the difference between the JetFluid PRO and the Fluid2?


    Are CycleOps and Kinetic the only brands I should be considering? I saw a Taxc but it was fairly expensive at ~$1,000. I'm not finding many review of these items. So any comment are welcome. Just want to avoid any pitfalls this time.

    Am I right to assume I cant really go wrong between these 2 items.
    Last edited by Vlaam4ever; 04-29-14 at 12:14 PM.
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    I'm thrilled with my KK Road Machine after a couple of months of use. (I've only used the Road Machine, so I don't have a comparison to make.) While that's not a lot of time, I've used it a number of times with two different bike (a 700c cyclocross bike and a 26" rigid fork mountain bike). It's hard to find a negative review or forum post, and it appears to be very well made. I really like that there is a published power curve/formula to relate speed to power, which is great for us mere mortals who don't have a power meter. I found comments from people who compared their power meters to the KK curve, who generally said there is good agreement between the two.

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    I put over 1000 miles on my KKRM this winter and couldn't be happier. Matched up with TrainerRoad and a sense of dedication this machine will deliver results! When I hit the road this spring, I did so at the same level as I peaked at last year!

    Road feel is as good as you can get for a trainer.

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    I have both the cyclops fluid 2 and a kk. My take is this - the fluid 2 is easier to set up, great resistance (as much as you need) and is very stable. Saris is impeccable on standing behind their products. I had a minor leak 3 years ago, they replaced the entire trainer, no receipt needed or questions asked. The KK is more time consuming to set up & dial in, has a smoother feel. It has plenty of resistance, but not as much as my cyclops. No first hand exp. with company support, but have read / heard they are on par with Saris. I'd use either one. I'd also look around on craigslist or something similar. This time of year people are dumping fairly new ones at very nice prices.

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    Since when is APRIL a time for a new trainer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAura View Post
    Since when is APRIL a time for a new trainer?
    Trainer or rollers are always a good supplement. I can't do a zone 1 recovery ride outdoors at all. Every direction is up. And this evening for recovery, I did a longish zone 1 roller ride with 7 X 2' (each leg) OLP intervals. Can't do that on the road. Plus it's still raining here. This week we have nice weather so we'll get out Wednesday and Thursday, but it's going to be rain riding again this weekend. I don't rain ride during the week. I get enough of it on the weekend. In any case, I'll ride my rollers at least once a week all summer.

    My fluid resistance unit somehow lost most of its fluid over the past 15 years. I'm experimenting with different fluids for replacement. It's like having a new set again. Loving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAura View Post
    Since when is APRIL a time for a new trainer?
    It's the only place I do recovery rides. It's also my preferred place to ride when it's raining or dark during during the work week. I regularly get 3-6 hours per month on it even during peak riding months. But now is the time for me because my old one is broken.
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    <riding now> BigAura's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlaam4ever View Post
    It's the only place I do recovery rides. It's also my preferred place to ride when it's raining or dark during during the work week. I regularly get 3-6 hours per month on it even during peak riding months. But now is the time for me because my old one is broken.
    OK, you and Carbon are right. Carry on & enjoy.

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    I picked up a KK Road Machine on CraigsList for $250.
    Glad to have my cloth dryclean rack back
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    My Kurt Kinetic is 5-6 years old and I've never done any maintenance on it. I put 500 miles on it this winter and trained for a century successfully using mostly trainers. I hate all trainers, but I'm fine enough with mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlaam4ever View Post
    I picked up a KK Road Machine on CraigsList for $250.
    Glad to have my cloth dryclean rack back
    Good score!

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    Just a 2 month check in. I really scored well with this KK Road Machine. Picked it up cheap and it rides so smooth and quiet that I ride it 3+ times per week. I still ride outside on the weekends.

    This new job has me working past my regular group rides during the week, so Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday I've been on the trainer after work for 1-2 hours. I can still hear the TV over the tire and fan noise. Now that the tour is on, I'll be riding with them nearly everyday.

    Very happy with the purchase and highly recommended.
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    Good to hear! Time to start looking for used trainer videos or try some online stuff. There is some free stuff out there as well (youtube).

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