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Old 04-05-05, 07:47 AM   #1
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Can we fast

and still ride and train? I used to do short fasts, 3-5 days, periodically and longer ones up to 21 days occasionally. I usually would drink only fresh juice and water with no no solid food when on a fast. But this was back when I wasn't riding. Does anyone out there fast at all when training? If you do, how do you manage out there on the road/trail? Does going on a fast alter the rest of your regimen? I'm thinking of starting back up fasting every now and then, but honestly am afraid of what might happen to my body if I ride while I' fasting. Thoughs?
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Dare I ask?

Why do you wanna fast?
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Old 04-05-05, 08:18 AM   #3
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Why do you wanna fast?
yeah, why do you fast? I hope it's not to lose weight.
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Old 04-05-05, 01:32 PM   #4
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On fast days, I generally ride casually. I only very rarely go more than a day fasting.

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i was over a year ago planning to do 45km route eat somthing then do another 45km, i happened to run out of sports drink so only had water, rode hard for 35km and all of a sudden with in the distance of a few hundred meters i went from full of energy to totaly weak, thats right i bonked out but being a guy and all i could not use my 'life line' and 'phone a freind' (or my dad) to come help me, so basicly long story short with in 3km i stumble off my bike and pass out for 10 minutes or so only to get back on my bike and finish the ride. No i did do the route again that day.
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I like to go fast.

But I think combining fasting and vigorous exercise is asking for a bonk or worse.
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Old 04-05-05, 07:34 PM   #7
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yeah, why do you fast? I hope it's not to lose weight.
Not to lose weight, although traditionally that is a by-product...especially on extended fasts. No, when I fasted before, it was for spiritual reasons...that and for detoxification. Of course, I wasn't riding back then.
I didn't really think it's a good idea now that I'm on the bike. Thanks for the input.
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what do you juice? Just fruit, or vegies, too?



If you also juice fish, eggs and hamburgers, then I wouldn't worry just kidding.
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what do you juice? Just fruit, or vegies, too?



If you also juice fish, eggs and hamburgers, then I wouldn't worry just kidding.
LOL.....I would juice fruits and veggies. Apples, citrus fruits, pears, peaches, apricots, kiwis, cabbage, spinach, carrots, celery, tomatoes, beets....you get the picture. I use a juicer brand name of Champion. It actually masticates(sp?) the fruit/veggies, sort of chews them to extract the juice.
Tried juicing beef brisket once...waaaay too sweet.
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masticates(sp?):
Did you know Google has a very quick spell check?
If you enter a word then do a search, with slightly incorrect spelling, Google will correct the spelling.

So, if I enter "mastikates", Google comes back and says: "did you mean: mastictes?"



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Tried juicing beef brisket once...waaaay too sweet.
what about a Snickers?

So, you're basically living on fruit a vegies for a few days, in which case, I don't think you'd have energy problems. However, if you're riding and sweating A LOT, you might lack some electrolytes that are crucial for water balance, muslce contraction and normal cell function, etc, etc -- especially sodium, and maybe calcium & magnesium
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I am very curious about this too. I was plannig to fast next week for 3 days, but I don't want to stop commuting my 16 miles per day, as it is the only exercise I get.

I've been reading this site to find some more info:
http://www.healingdaily.com/juicing-...th/fasting.htm

any serious help or comments would GREATLY appriciated.

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"Masticates" is a synonym for "chews".

mmmm....brisket juice....
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Fasting and endurance sport (or any sport I would suggest) do not mix.

Why deprive your body of fuel?? First thing it does is start breaking down valuable tissues to survive.
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Fasting is sort of a "holistic health" cult thing, with no basis in science. Along with "colonics". Why bother?

OK, fasting is something that people do for religious / spiritual reasons... but no health benefits.
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Fasting is sort of a "holistic health" cult thing, with no basis in science. Along with "colonics". Why bother?

OK, fasting is something that people do for religious / spiritual reasons... but no health benefits.
I disagree. Fasting can have great health benefits. It may not be taught in most medical schools, but western medicine is slowly coming around to giving credence to the health benefits of fasting.

Try reading "Fasting and Eating for Optimal Health" (or something like that) by Dr. Joel Fuhrman.

BTW, Dr. Fuhrman suggests not drinking juice on the fasts.
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First off fasting for a prolonged time (anything more than a day) and stenuous activity is a terrible mix. I'm assuming the point of this fast is to relieve the digestive system of its heavy load for a few days. The most optimal scenario while fasting is to do as little as possible including working, walking, anything.
Whether or not colonics or fasting has any basis in medicine wouldn't it be nice to relieve your body of anywhere from 5-25 lbs of partially digested food sitting and rotting in your gut, both of these things accomplish this goal.
Dr. Fuhrman also suggests that you only do this extreme fasting where you take in nothing but water, under supervision. A complete fast can be very dangerous for a novice.
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If you enjoy dumpng muscle mass at an extreme rate, then by all means fast and cycle together. If excess lean mass is a problem for you, then this is a great idea...

otherwise, its totally and completely idiotic. No two ways about it
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LOL.....I would juice fruits and veggies. Apples, citrus fruits, pears, peaches, apricots, kiwis, cabbage, spinach, carrots, celery, tomatoes, beets....you get the picture. I use a juicer brand name of Champion. It actually masticates(sp?) the fruit/veggies, sort of chews them to extract the juice.
Tried juicing beef brisket once...waaaay too sweet.
Not sure I understand here. Are you equating consumption of juiced vegies and fruit with a fast? Just because foods aren't solid doesn't mean consuming them is fasting.
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Yeah... if you eat calories, you know: carbs, fats, proteins... a little fiber in there maybe... you can blend all the food you want in a super-quisinart. Sure you can do that and cycle. But thats not fasting...
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