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    Quick Ways to Get Faster without Doping

    I'm just starting to get serious about road biking and want to see what suggestions you guys have to jump start my fitness... legally. I read a lot about heart rate and power meters but I don't think I'm at the level yet where that would benefit me much. I'm more just looking for time tested ways to get me on the right track to conquer some of my local climbs in a respectable amount of time.

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    Ride lots.

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    Ride with faster people.
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    Both of the above. This says pretty much the same thing, but is a bit more eloquent.

    Art's Cyclery Blog Top 5 Ways to Get Faster on Your Bike

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    Hard work, dedication, and a willingness to suffer a bit. There ain't no fast way to get there. Even the doping wouldn't be enough by itself. As many who really want to win do the hard work and make the sacrifices in addition to cheating.

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    @WestRide: Thanks for posting the article link. Some good tips there.

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    @Cutter: I'm afraid your right, but I'm hoping there's something more that I'm maybe missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbill View Post
    @Cutter: I'm afraid your right, but I'm hoping there's something more that I'm maybe missing.
    Go back in time and be born to genetically superior parents. That's pretty much the only thing missing from this thread.
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    There's no such thing as too far.. just lack of time
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    Follow a training plan for the winter, dedication will get your there!
    In 4-5 months, you can improve a lot

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    There seems to be some common elements to success:
    -You may hurt but the work is by no means suffering. If it ever becomes suffering time to think about something else.
    -Get a coach, preferably one with a video camera. Use both.
    -There is an in the man true saying that proficiency only comes after at least 10,000 repetitions. In other words; Ride a Lot

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    Lots of good tips to get faster but we need to acknowledge that some aspects of fitness happen over time and can't be rushed. The body undergoes numerous structural changes to muscles, obviously, but also to tendons and ligaments. There is no point in having stronger muscles if tendons and ligaments can't also take the loads. Also bone, mitochondria, core muscles and every single aspect or the body. This takes a while - maybe several years. Ride a lot, rest plenty and eat well.

    Eating well may be underrated. I don't backpack much these days but did in the recent past. Appalachian Trail hikers tend to load up on carbs but don't eat balanced meals and seem to frequently lack the vitamins and minerals to sustain overall health. I've observed that it is not uncommon for such hikers at near the 2/3 of 3/4 distance, say after walking 1600 miles or so, suffer bone injuries which ends their hike.

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    Proper diet, base miles, climbing, intervals and rest. You will improve quickly but it's going to hurt for awhile. It never gets easier but you will get faster.

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    Interval training
    Wind sprints
    Hill repeats

    Good Nutrition
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    Quote Originally Posted by achoo View Post
    Ride lots.
    Quote Originally Posted by caloso View Post
    Ride with faster people.
    +1

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    Since you're asking about "quick ways" to ride faster, I suggest only riding downhill, only riding with a tailwind, and only drafting off other riders. Those are the quick ways. Everything else takes time and energy.

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    Haha, excellent.

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    Yes good one,milk baby. That's the only quick way, everything else takes time and effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Cutter View Post
    Hard work, dedication, and a willingness to suffer a bit. There ain't no fast way to get there. Even the doping wouldn't be enough by itself. As many who really want to win do the hard work and make the sacrifices in addition to cheating.
    yup, was thinking the same thing, doping doesn't eliminate the need for training
    cycling is like baseball ~ it doesn't take much to make it interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
    yup, was thinking the same thing, doping doesn't eliminate the need for training
    So many are so willing to give their very being to be at the top..... true winning athletes must also have that unmeasurable ability called talent. And yeah... luck too... whatever luck is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caloso View Post
    Ride with faster people.
    Everyone says this but I think it is a false concept. For if they are actually faster than you, then you will NOT be riding with them. Once they drop you like a bad habit, you will suffer the emotional letdown of failure to keep up. You'd be better served riding alone and doing HIIT workouts I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caloso View Post
    Ride with faster people.
    Worked for me.

    Took me six months, then I was the fastest rider to chase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vic303 View Post
    Everyone says this but I think it is a false concept. For if they are actually faster than you, then you will NOT be riding with them. Once they drop you like a bad habit, you will suffer the emotional letdown of failure to keep up. You'd be better served riding alone and doing HIIT workouts I think.
    I'm not suggesting that a brand new rider go right off the couch to the Tuesday Night Worlds. But if you find a partner or a group that's a bit stronger than you are, you'll be motivated to push yourself to stay with them in a way that you can't duplicate just staring at a garmin and trying to hit your wattage/hr targets. And if you do get dropped, you might be motivated to hang on a little longer next week. Then a little longer the week after that. Pretty soon you're sitting in comfortably and even taking some pulls. It's happened for enough of us that I wouldn't discount it as a false concept.

    Solitary workouts have their place. Most of my rides are solo; in fact I just back from a set of 2x20's at lunch. But I really look forward to the Saturday morning and Thursday night rides. They're the highlight of my week.
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    Another way to increase speed quickly:

    Can you see the electric assist motor on this bike? : TreeHugger

    If you want to do it with your legs, quick is unrealistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njlonghorn View Post
    Another way to increase speed quickly:

    Can you see the electric assist motor on this bike? : TreeHugger

    If you want to do it with your legs, quick is unrealistic.
    Just an electronic form of doping.
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