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    Sports/energy drinks. Making your own

    DOes anyone here make, or know how to make your own energy drink mixes, the ones that help replenish ATP and gives you electrolytes?

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    Good question, I've often wonder about this too. You see instructions on how to make your own energy bars but none for drinks.

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    yup - 1 sachet instant koolaid and 2 or 3 sachets oral rehydration powder. Mix to personal taste - I prefer my koolaid saltier so 3 sachets of rehydration salts for me. If you buy tubs of each it works out much cheaper than individual sachets.

    Not sure about ATP replacement but check the food ingredient label on packaging.
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    Fruit juice and water 1:2 with a pinch of biosalt. Yummy.

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    [Excerpts from http://www.cptips.com/hmdesnk.htm]

    HOMEMADE SPORTS DRINKS
    For many years it was believed that a 2.5% concentration (glucose or glucose polymer molecules) was the maximum that could be tolerated without delaying gastric emptying and producing nausea. However a recent study of cyclists demonstrated normal gastric emptying with 6 to 8% solutions, and nausea occurred only when concentrations were pushed above 11%. The old standbys - fruit juices and cola drinks - have a sugar concentration of around 10% (a typical carbonated drink will contain 38 grams of sugar per 12 ounces with 140 Calories). Although sports drinks supplemented with glucose polymers can provide more Calories per quart at the target 10 - 11% concentration, studies have failed to demonstrate a performance advantage of complex carbohydrate drinks over those compoced of simple sugars if the same total Calories were ingested. The advantage of the polymers is the absence of a sweet taste and nauseating properties of high concentration glucose drinks, which can be a barrier to maintaining an adequate fluid intake.

    Many people enjoy their own homemade versions of commercial sports drinks. The basic recipe is not complicated and homemade sports drinks can provide all of the same benefits when mixed properly. Gatorade (tm) is formulated to give the following per 8oz serving:

    14grams Carbohydrate (5.9%)
    110 mg Sodium
    30mg Potassium
    52 Calories
    Alternatives to this commercial product can be made using one of the following recipes:

    Recipe #1
    10 tbs. sugar (5/8 cups or 120 grams)
    .75 tsp Morton Lite salt (4.2 grams)
    1 package of unsweetened Coolade mix for flavor
    Water to make 2 liters

    Nutrition Information (per 8 ounces). The recipe will give a total of 124 grams of solute which in 2 liters water gives a total of 6.2% concentration.

    14.2 grams carbohydrate (6%)
    53 calories
    103 mg Sodium
    121 mg Potassium

    You'll notice that the amount of potassium is quite a bit higher than Gatorade, but the rest is pretty close. As excess potassium is eliminated from the body by the kidneys, and some experts feel a high potassium helps to minimize muscle cramps - and hypertension if taken long term - this is not necessarily bad. However, if you wanted to reduce the potassium to the level of a Gatorade product, another option would be to use 1/2 tsp. each of regular salt and the Morton Lite Salt. This would change the composition to:

    104mg sodium
    40mg potassium


    Recipe #2 (if you wanted to reduce the amount of potassium, or simply didn't want to buy some Morton Lite Salt
    1/2 cup orange juice
    9 tbs. Sugar
    3/8 tsp Salt
    Water to 2 liters
    Nutrition Information (per 8 ounces):

    14.4 grams carb (6.1%)
    104 mg sodium
    28.4 mg Potassium
    (you could substitute 2 tbs. of lemon juice for the orange juice and it would come out the same - or at least close).

    Recipe #3 (using cups and quarts)
    4 tablespoons sugar
    1/4 teaspoon salt
    1/4 cup boiling water
    1/4 cup orange juice (not concentrate) or 2 tablespoons lemon juice
    3-3/4 cups cold water
    1. In the bottom of a pitcher, dissolve the sugar and salt in the hot water.
    2. Add the juice and the remaining water; chill.
    Yield: 1 quart
    Nutrition Information (per 8 ounces):
    Calories - 50
    carbohydrate 12 grams
    sodium 110 milligrams
    potassium 30 milligrams

    Recipe #4 (if you prefer an all fructose drink)
    125 mL (1/2 c) orange juice (or other sugar-containing beverage)
    125 mL (1/2 c) water
    0.25 mL (pinch) salt
    Nutrition Information (per 8 ounces):
    Calories - 59
    carbohydrates 14 grams
    sodium - 118 mg

    Recipe #5 Lemon-orange sports drink
    1 caffeine-free lemon tea bag
    Water
    2 tablespoons sugar
    1/8 teaspoon salt
    4 tablespoons orange juice
    Bring 16 ounces of water to a boil.
    Steep lemon tea bag.
    Dissolve sugar and salt in the tea and let cool.
    Combine the tea and orange juice and chill.
    Nutrition Information (per 8 ounces):
    Calories - 60
    carbohydrates - 15g
    sodium -130mg

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    Hypotonic:

    20-40g sucrose
    1 litre warm water
    1-1.5g salt (optional)
    Sugar free / low calorie squash for flavouring (optional)

    or

    100 ml fruit squash
    900 ml water
    1-1.5g salt (optional)

    or

    250 ml fruit juice
    750 ml water
    1-1.5g salt (optional)

    Isotonic:

    40-80g sucrose
    1 litre warm water
    1-1.5g salt (optional)
    Sugar free / low calorie squash for flavouring (optional)

    or

    200 ml fruit squash
    800 ml water
    1-1.5g salt (optional)

    or

    500 ml fruit juice
    500 ml water
    1-1.5g salt (optional)

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    Use about 25% apple juice with a squeeze of lemon juice to take off the sweetness, a pinch (less than 1/4 tsp) of no-salt, a pinch of salt and fill up with water. If I dont have apple juice I use ice tea crystals. I am not a performance cyclist, but I dont ever get leg cramps with this, which used to happen ocassionaly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiguy2000
    DOes anyone here make, or know how to make your own energy drink mixes, the ones that help replenish ATP and gives you electrolytes?
    We are a manufacturing company specializing in concentrates for energy drinks using own recipes and technologies.

    We offer a premium quality Concentrates made entirely with Natural Products.

    Herbal Extracts rich in Vitamins and Minerals (Chamomile, Rosa Canina, Hypericum Perforatum, Verbena, etc.)
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    The content of the standard ready-to-drink energy drink products is as follows:
    Ingredients for 100 ml:
    - Caffeine up to 25 mg
    - Taurine up to 40 mg
    - Glucoronolactone up to 24 mg
    - Vitamins: B2, B6, B12, Folic Acid, Pantothenic acid, Niacin, K, P, D, C Nutritious value for 100 ml:
    - Energy value 235 kJ/ 54,5 kcal
    - Proteins only traces
    - Carbohydrates 13 gr.
    - Fats 0 gr.
    - Sodium/ potassium up to 1, 8 mg.

    Wide ranges of variations are available on:

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    Our drinks supply 30% of the daily needs of vitamins and energy supplements of the human body which makes their frequent usage not harmful as the other energy products do. One energy drink equals 2 cups of coffee.

    Our concentrates are made in 2 forms: Liquid and Powder.
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    In addition to the above, we offer concentrates for energy drinks similar in content and energy value to Red Bull. We can also make any other recipe by a customer request.
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    Hey Sedma

    What does you advertising YOUR product have to do with making YOUR own drinks?! What a slimeball! Off with your head! you just signed up today to advertise your products.

    Thanks for the recipes guys. I think I'm going to try the koolaid one. I get tired of yellow gatorade and that blue powerade stuff....

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    I add 24 oz. of water to 2 scoops of Accelerade. It's the best thing I've ever made.
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    Go with Emergen-C Electro-Mix with some tap water. Tastes great and no calories, no fat, no cholesterol, no sodium.

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    It seems to me after reading the recipes that most if not all are basically diluted fruit drinks with a little salt/potassium. So: I say why not drink water, eat an apple, banana and orange before and during the ride. Throw in a few nuts for good measure and perhaps add a little lime/lemon to the water to quench thirst while adding potassium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebankman
    Go with Emergen-C Electro-Mix with some tap water. Tastes great and no calories, no fat, no cholesterol, no sodium.
    Why in the world would someone want an "energy drink" with no calories and no sodium? If you're riding at 12 mph for an hour or so, plain water will do. But if you're riding harder, in the hills or in the heat, your body needs to be resupplied with carbs and electrolytes.
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    I read recently that honey, specifically the kind of sugar in it, worked as well as any commercial sport goo out there for providing calories during the ride. The honey-lemonade recipe I got from that site is easy:

    1/2 cup honey
    1/2 teaspoon lite salt (optional really)
    1/4 cup lemon juice
    7 1/2 cups water
    That's only 3 water bottles worth, so multiply the recipe as needed.
    (Dissolve honey in lukewarm water.)

    150 calories per 20 oz. water bottle
    Last edited by neilG; 01-12-06 at 12:27 AM.

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    Take a gel shot every hour and you don't need sodium or calories. 100 calories goes a long way. As far as I know, sodium is not necessary for proper electrolytes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebankman
    Take a gel shot every hour and you don't need sodium or calories. 100 calories goes a long way. As far as I know, sodium is not necessary for proper electrolytes.
    Wrong. Think about it...sodium is an electrolyte. In fact, it's the most important electrolyte (and the major constituent of sweat).

    Some people need more, some need less (sweat rates and the sodium content of sweat vary by individual, and with training and heat acclimation). But if your rides are hot, hilly, or hard you need sodium. Otherwise, you risk hyponatremia.
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