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Old 07-18-05, 02:35 PM   #1
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cycling shoes? shorts?

hey, I've only done one triathlon in may and will be doing another one in september. I've been training quite consistently for a couple of months with my running shoes on just regular flat pedals.
is there a lot of time to be gained if i bought cycling shoes and pedals? will the work on my hamstrings hurt my run since i havent trained with them all this time?

assume i can ride at 20mi/hr(average) for 60min. how much faster in your experience could someone get with the shoe being the variable?

i've also being training in some nylon soccer shorts... will getting a $40 pair of tri shorts save me anytime on the swim and bike?

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Old 07-18-05, 05:40 PM   #2
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Clipless pedals make a huge difference.
I can't put a mph average on it. It will make the biggest difference on hills. I wouldn't be surprised if you can add 1-2mph to your average. Definitely go clipless. Don't look back.

I have only done two tris. Both with tri shorts. I found them to be comfy for all three legs. Its a bit quicker not to have to throw runnings shorts on over them. I think its worth the $50 or so.
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Clipless pedals make a huge difference.
I can't put a mph average on it. It will make the biggest difference on hills. I wouldn't be surprised if you can add 1-2mph to your average. Definitely go clipless. Don't look back.

I have only done two tris. Both with tri shorts. I found them to be comfy for all three legs. Its a bit quicker not to have to throw runnings shorts on over them. I think its worth the $50 or so.
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Clipless pedals make a huge difference.
I can't put a mph average on it. It will make the biggest difference on hills. I wouldn't be surprised if you can add 1-2mph to your average. Definitely go clipless. Don't look back.

I have only done two tris. Both with tri shorts. I found them to be comfy for all three legs. Its a bit quicker not to have to throw runnings shorts on over them. I think its worth the $50 or so.
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Boy I made a stupid choice lately in buying shoes. I bought some NIke cycling shoes. They have three velcro straps. Not helpful for triathons. Takes too much time to put them on.
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*off topic* wow, im impressed there jennings, you managed a triple post

*on topic* definatly get some cycling/tri shoes+clipless pedals.

No onto speed, I would say that saying it will work more of your hams is a huge if, it depends on your pedal stroke.

check this out-http://www.tri-ecoach.com/art13.htm

Now, some advice, get very used to the clipless system before you try to race on it. If you are unfamiliar with it, ask the shop you are getting the pedals from to let you set it up on a trainer and try to clip in/clip out a few times

Now with the shoes. Having proper cycling shoes will held you if you dont change you pedal stroke at all becaus cycling shoes all have very rigid soles(some more then others--carbon fibre), which creates a much more efficiant power transfer from your legs to your pedals.

Which shoes to buy? The question that you need to answer first is what do you want to do with it? do you want to do more cycling then triathlons? or do you do just enough cycling to keep fast enough fro triathlons?

If you want to do alot of cycling, and just a few triathlons, I would say get some road shoes(more comfortable over time), if you are doing alot of tris, and just a bit of training to keep your riding up then go for tri shoes(less comfortable over time because a single strap is putting on teh pressure on one part of your foot as oppossed to 3 straps evenly, but it is faster to get on/off)


Shorts- What I dont understand is are you wearing you bathing suit for the swim, then putting on shorts for the bike/run? If you dont have them, and plan on doing triathlons, get some. They are great, you can wear them in the water, and they have a small chamois, it is thick enough to provide some comfort for the riding, but thin enough to dry out, for the ride and also not get in the way for the run.


wow, this is a long winded post. If i am not clear on anything, or if I am wrong. Post something, questions, comments whatever. If i dont know it(I am relitivley new to tris, only 4 years), there is a large wealth of knowledge here.
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thats some good advice.
i actually race the whole race with the same shorts. theyre nylon so they dry out quick.
i guess i'll think about the shoe thing a little more...
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The thing about getting tri shorts like I said is that you will have that little bit more comfort because of the chamois. You also will have to replace then after a while. I am on year three with them, mind you this is also the first year i didnt train in them to. I think it is wearing out, I get really bad chafing after every race. I never get it in training, and I do some 3-4 hour rides..... meh, thats just another thing I'll need to buy
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It takes some talent to do a triple post. Thanks for noticing.

You swim in nylon shorts? That is totally slowing down your swim. Throw modesty to the wind and start training in a speedo or jammers and race in tri shorts. To the people who actually swim or do tris you'll actually look less strange than you do swimming laps in swim trunks.

I have a pair of road shoes with two velcro straps and a click-lock thing for the top strap. I plan on buying a pair of tri shoes next season. For now having the slower shoes adds maybe 5-10 seconds. For now I am placing at just under top 1/3 of my age group so 5 - 10 seconds isn't a big deal. As I hopefully progress it will matter more. I agree with batman that if you are biking a lot, go for a nice pair of road shoes. They are better for biking. You can pick up a pair of tri shoes down the road.
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Ya, because I race in Tris so much, I bought some tri shoes. This year thouhg I have found myself riding ALOT, so I am now looking at getting some road shoes just for when I do my training rides for the comfort factor.
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