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Old 09-28-05, 12:42 PM   #1
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Why No Ipod?

I'm new to tris. Haven't done one yet--in fact, just started training for something other than cycling last week.

One question--why are Ipods, Walkmans, etc. not allowed on the run? I can't imagine how boring my training runs would be without my Ipod.

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Old 09-28-05, 12:58 PM   #2
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Mostly for safety reasons. There are a lot of people out there between volunteers, runners coming up behind you, race officials, etc.

Another good reason is that races are group activities. People tend to encourage each other (or taunt them). If you're in your iPOD world, you're not getting the total experience. I mean hey...you don't want to miss someone saying, "Looking Good Billy Ray."

Try mixing up your training runs. Do some short ones where you don't bring it along. I like having mine too but it's really not that bad without it.
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Old 09-28-05, 01:07 PM   #3
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i love running with music, but i hardly do it at all. did x-country in hs, and never thought to run with the big ol' walkman during those races, so i got used to actually listening to my body, humming a song, thinking out my strategy, pondering the day's problems, zoning out, whatever during some long runs.

since i've learned to do that, and still enjoy using my mp3 player to make a long treadmill session or some training runs more enjoyable, i tend to view the use of music as motivator as the equivalent to doping.

sure, it's extreme, whatev. i'm not making some giant argument for this crackpot theory, but i do think that any unfair advantage taken by people who don't know the rules should definitely be given a race penalty. why should you get music, and i don't? i rarely run with music now that i live in the city, because it makes me very much unaware of the thousands of other people out biking and running on the crowded trails, or the death-wish traffic on the streets. plus, i train at dawn or dusk, and while i'm not a paranoid shivering waif, i like to know who's running up behind me in the gloom.

in most races, the danger of traffic and creepy lurkers is pretty much nonexistent (your results may vary). however, i think it's lame when i'm coming up behind mr. man at a steady pace on a crowded course, and yell "on your left", and he's happily rocking out with the tell-tale white headphones (nothing against the brand, just, hey, i can see them!). with a course with live bands, everyone gets the benefit. without this, you're just the oblivious guy who benefits from a steady beat while others have trained to do without.
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It is mostly so that you can hear other people, officials, cars, ect... Most races I do, to get the distance you need on the run, the go on alot of roads, so being able to hear cars comming is a saftey thing.
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The safety argument is a lot of BS. I don't hear anyone arguing that def racers shouldn't be allowed on course. I run on the streets all the time (sometimes in the city) with the MP3 and have never had a problem. Just keep your eyes open and stay on the correct side of the course.

And as far as it being an unfair advantage, it wouldn't be if the rules allowed the use on the run. I have never used it in a tri but it would be a nice option to have.
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It is not BS.

Deaf people are not the same as people listening to music. They are used to working within their own sensory perceptions. People wearing MP3 players are providing other sensory input and therefore it distracts them. There have been tons of studies proving this.

Just because you've never had a problem running on the streets with your MP3 player doesn't mean that it doesn't affect you. That argument is akin to someone saying, "I drink and drive all the time and I've never been in an accident." In both cases there is an external factor that can have a negative effect on you.

Also, a race is much different than running on your own. I wear my iPOD when I run throught the park, on the trails, or down the sidewalk but there typically aren't more than a handful of people around. In a race, there's a lot of people in one place and the potential for something to happen is much higher.

In my opinion, your comments are short-sighted.
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Old 09-29-05, 01:25 PM   #7
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I bike on 1 miles of trail to get to my favorite loop and it is a fairly busy trail and almost everyone on it has headphones. It can be frustrating to ride down a trail yelling over peoples headphones "on your left". Same premise in triathlons, race people, other competitors and the like, want to be able to and may inevitably need to be able to communicate with you. Especially on run courses that are out and back or on a loop so the top runners are in proximity to the pack.
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Accidents waiting to happen.
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I use my ipod when I race, but lately I've been leaving it off. While I keep it LOW when I run, so I can hear everyone around me, I've found I really like hearing everyone around me more than I like the music. On a long run this might not be the case, but for 5 miles or so I can easily do without the music. I do not use it when on the bike legs of a race, cause I can not hear my bike, but on training rides, I usually have one earbud in and the other ear exposed to the sounds around me... at any rate, keep the music rally low so you do not have an accident...

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