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    Now that Lance has retired...

    Now that he's retired, do you think that he'll ever go back to his racing roots to try and do an IM? How do you think he will do? (I know, it will depend on how serious he trains but...)

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    According to his interviews he'll probably stay active and do some triathlons. When questioned about an IM. He was a little more hesitant.

    Steve Larson had a flash of success. But, didn't last long and went to the business side of sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriBob
    According to his interviews he'll probably stay active and do some triathlons. When questioned about an IM. He was a little more hesitant.

    Steve Larson had a flash of success. But, didn't last long and went to the business side of sport.

    I just read a couple month old article that when asked about tris he said sure, his kids. Then again that was before the tour so who really knows?

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    If Lance tris again, does Nike come out with a line of tri wear?

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    I imagine he'd do pretty darn well. I for one would like to see him do it. He's still young enough by a long shot!

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    We should try and get some of the legends out of retirement: Mark Allen, Dave Scott, Scott Molina, Scott Tinley (is he retired?), Lance Armstrong, etc. Get a Triathlon dedicated to the legends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berns
    We should try and get some of the legends out of retirement: Mark Allen, Dave Scott, Scott Molina, Scott Tinley (is he retired?), Lance Armstrong, etc. Get a Triathlon dedicated to the legends.

    That happened in 2003 at the 25th -anniversary of IM Hawaii (the last time I raced IM Hawaii). All of the past legends were back in Hawaii together and I had the chance to meet them all and see some old friends from the sport that I hadn't seen since the late 1980's. In fact at the carbo dinner they were all on the same stage together all the legends men and women - something that I will never forget as you will never see that happen again ever.
    Of the legends who raced in 2003; Molina (at age 43 had Swim of 53:16 Bike of 05:10:21 and a run of 03:56:36 for a 10:10:08) raced along with Paula Newby-Fraser (finished 12th among the women if I remember correctly with a Swim of 56:14 Bike 05:16:54 Run 03:32:54 for a 9:51:40 ). You won't ever see the 6-time winners Allen and Scott race there ever again as they have too much pride...in that if they can't win they won't race - so never.
    Of the names you noted, Molina is the only one who still gets out there as of late and he raced in Hawaii in 2004 as well. 2004 was a bad year there with the winds on the bike really bad - so I'm glad I didn't go last year, but I am missing it big time this year. I will be running the Detroit Marathon in a few weeks but I WILL be back in Kona next year - one more time. Even my friend and training partner who is still a top 15 in the swim at Hawaii and sub 10-hour guy (well he is 44-years old) had a rough time in 2004. The Hoyts (Dick and Rick) dropped out due to a bike crash in 2003, I walked with them in the opening day parade which was pretty cool. Dick and Rick tried again in 2004 but due to the bad winds on the bike dropped out and will most likly not return again, but I hope to see them in Boston in April. Sister Madonna Buder didn't make the cut off to finish in 2003 but will be back here in 2005 to go after the win in the 75-79 age group!
    - and The original Ironman champion, Gordon Haller, crossed the line 14:19 and I had a great time cheering for him at the finish.
    One of the athletes (Duncan MacGregor) welded and hand made 2,000 unique finisher's statues in the likeness of the original 15 made by Ironman's founder John Collins - this was one of the coolest things we recieved as athletes "The Hole in the head trophy" along with our very cool 25th anniversary medals.
    You may get the chance to see some of the legends here and there - but never all together like in 2003.
    Oh... as for Scott Tinley (retired?? did you just wake up from a 14 year nap or something? That happened like in 1993) the old warrior of the Qween-K, he played some mean guitar at the expo. Out of all the "legends" Only Ken Glah (The beast from the East) still races every year in 2003 at age 39 still managed to put in a great day with Swim 52:29 Bike 04:47:07 (who rode with the lead pack of 25 riders or so) and a Run of 03:17:15 for an unbelievable 9:02:02. I think Ken has raced in Hawaii 21-times now which is even more unbelievable. At the Pre race meeting in 2003 they asked those who were here in Hawaii for the first time to stand (the Iron Rookies), 2x please stand, 3x (my turn), 4x, etc... at 20 Ken who sat near me stood up to a loud cheer. Out of everyone out there Ken proves it each October in Kona that he still has the heart of a lion and is still Damn fast too.
    But, I do have to say both Scott (who I see in Boulder, Colorado from time to time) and Allen - physically look like they could toe the start line today and still tear it up like in the old days.

    As for Lance, although a Tour de France legend, he never reached that status in Triathlons - not even close. The title of a legend (in the world of Triathlons anyway) to me lives with those who have sweated blood on the Qween-K and have proven it at the World Championships in Hawaii.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MHR
    ... as for Scott Tinley (retired?? did you just wake up from a 14 year nap or something? That happened like in 1993)

    Quite honestly... yes. I've been out of the sport for quit some time. I moved away from an area that was very bicycle friendly and country roads that went on forever and you didn't have to worry too much about traffic (Corvallis, Oregon). Concentrating on school and moving back and forth to Japan has made it difficult to train and for a while I had an IT-Band and Plantar-Faciatis (forgive my spellings) injuries. Then I got a Playstation and discovered "laziness". Not only did I enjoy "laziness" but I embraced it. Feeling the need for speed, I took up Performance Rally Racing and have been doing that for about five years. So... I have been out of it for a while. However, I have rediscovered my bike and found out how much I've missed it (although, things are more difficult now than when I was younger). Running is somewhat natural for me but swimming is a completely different story. I see me doing a Duathlon way before a Triathlon.

    My triathlon bike for example is a Zipp2001 that I purchased in 1993. It was the first year that they changed the beam from a "Softride/Alsop" beam to their own Zipp beam. Components consist of a mix of Shimano 105 and Ultegra component. But to really show it's age I've got Topline cranks, (had) Sampson Stratics Titanium pedals and Sampson Titanium Bottom bracket. I also "had" an Avocet computer. From my understanding Topline, Sampson and Avocet are all out of business. So forgive my ignorance as I SLOWLY get back into the sport. LOL

    Thank you for the wonderful update and hopefully I'll be able to hear more in the future. Good luck in your marathons.

    Bernie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berns
    We should try and get some of the legends out of retirement: Mark Allen, Dave Scott, Scott Molina, Scott Tinley (is he retired?), Lance Armstrong, etc. Get a Triathlon dedicated to the legends.
    I've seen Scott Molina racing in some races I've been in, he was even at Kona today. Although sadly he didn't finish, still not sure why. He is living down here in NZ at the moment, he married Erin Baker (arguably the best women triathlete of that era).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathmo
    I've seen Scott Molina racing in some races I've been in, he was even at Kona today. Although sadly he didn't finish, still not sure why. He is living down here in NZ at the moment, he married Erin Baker (arguably the best women triathlete of that era).
    Molina has always had issues in the heat and today in Kona without the thin layer of cloud cover - ending the day after the bike was a smart move for him.

    A SERIES OF FIRST'S
    A page out of the Ironman History Sister Madonna Buder finished!! Se did so in under 16-hours and is offically the oldest female to ever finish in the Hawaii Ironman winning the 75 - 79 age group - all I have to say is WOW!

    Robert McKeague become the first 80-year-old to finish an Ironman. He did that in just over 16 hours!

    Johnny Blais become the only athlete with ALS (Lou Gehrigs Disease) to finish an Ironman.

    This is what make this race so special - Ironman is not just a label on products. Limitations in the real world just don't apply here and each year in the small town of Kona dreams do come true. In 2003 the words "Anything is Possible" became the mantra of Ironman and the race that year had the highest finisher percentage of any Hawaii Ironman in it's 25-year history. Sister Madonna Buder, Robert McKeague and Jonny Blais are just a few examples of what happens every year at the World Championships - it is truly a magical place.


    The Ford Ironman World Championship will be broadcast on NBC - Saturday November 12 at 4:30 EST
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    Saw those "first's" before on Ironmanlive, man I'd be glad to still be breathing at that age let alone still doing Ironman races!

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