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Old 08-20-07, 10:11 PM   #226
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Jim, I would heartily recommend an upgrade to alloy rims...only problem being that there aren't any 26x1-3/8" available in alloy that I can find and I am not the only one looking.... Most of the steel replacement rims I have seen are of poor quality. The occasional pair of NOS SA show up on fleabay or where ever and command unbelievable (IMHO) prices. So it may be to your advantage to order up a new set of fenders and some 700c rims.

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If one can't find long reach calipers, drum brakes will usually solve the brake reach issue. With 700C wheels, the largest tires one can mount with fenders are 700C X 32.
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Very pretty indeed. But looks as practical for utility cycling as a pretty Schwinn Paramount.
True, true. I posted when it was in commuting, although I mostly won't be commuting on it either. I'll generally use it for small jobs around town or joyriding with the kids, as my commuting bike has clipless and I can't always be bothered shoeing up to get some bread or milk.
I do have reasonably flat commute though, and might get a backpack and try it sometime when my arrival time at work isn't so critical (mostly it is, but not always). It'll be nice to break it up a bit and use a different bike sometimes. I also have a 7 speed roadie nearly finished which will have the odd turn too.
I really like the way you don't feel compelled to go hard out all the time with a 3 speed. It's quite relaxing, which was missing on my 3x8 commuter.
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I really like the way you don't feel compelled to go hard out all the time with a 3 speed. It's quite relaxing, which was missing on my 3x8 commuter.
I could not agree more!
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I'm still looking forward to finding my 3 speed (recent acquisition I think is too small for comfort), but I'm guessing I won't be able to put a spedometer on it -- othewise I'll be always be watching the speed and distance, rather than the scenery.

Maybe I should go look for an odometer-only computer.
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I'm still looking forward to finding my 3 speed (recent acquisition I think is too small for comfort), but I'm guessing I won't be able to put a spedometer on it -- othewise I'll be always be watching the speed and distance, rather than the scenery.

Maybe I should go look for an odometer-only computer.
You just need to be retro with it and get you one of the mechanical odometers - the kind with the peg that turns the wheel with each revolution...
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I remember my dads 3spd having that. Boy, I wish I knew what happened to that bike...
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Jim, I would heartily recommend an upgrade to alloy rims...only problem being that there aren't any 26x1-3/8" available in alloy that I can find and I am not the only one looking.... Most of the steel replacement rims I have seen are of poor quality. The occasional pair of NOS SA show up on fleabay or where ever and command unbelievable (IMHO) prices. So it may be to your advantage to order up a new set of fenders and some 700c rims.

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I found alloy 26 3/8 rims, they're sun cr18's they come more often in 36 spokes but can be found in 40's. Cambridge Cycle, Broadway Cycles (both in Cambridge MA), and Harris Cyclery (Newton MA) all stock them.

Schwalbe Marathons are the only high end 26 3/8 tire that I've found. Has anyone found a supplier of SA 3 speed coaster hubs?

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I really like the way you don't feel compelled to go hard out all the time with a 3 speed. It's quite relaxing, which was missing on my 3x8 commuter.

I put toe clips on mine because flying on that bike is histerical!!! Its also why I'm in the market for new wheels.

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I found alloy 26 3/8 rims, they're sun cr18's they come more often in 36 spokes but can be found in 40's. Cambridge Cycle, Broadway Cycles (both in Cambridge MA), and Harris Cyclery (Newton MA) all stock them.

Schwalbe Marathons are the only high end 26 3/8 tire that I've found. Has anyone found a supplier of SA 3 speed coaster hubs?

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KEWL they are back in stock. I have been trying to order a set from Harris since Christmas...

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i'm working on it!

this is the "before" picture, but i don't have a camera and it's not *quite* finished for the "after" shot.

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as i've said in other threads, it takes some getting used to the looser handling, and the quirks of the SA hub/cottered cranks, but i'm still very proud of it.
update:

i've gone on a couple really long rides on this recently, and i was rather pleased. one ride was almost 40kms and the other was 100kms! in sandals!

i have a rack bag on it now so i don't have to carry anything on my back. it's lovely to go cruise along in an up-right position. i can still get up to about 30kms/hr without the steering getting too squirrley, but turns should be slower. oh, and i weighed my bike, bag/backpack and myself after the last time i did groceries and it came to 190 pounds! i'm just under 120!

i've found that the cottered cranks "jump" a bit sometimes; especially if i coast for a moment they lurch forward to reconnect with the flow of the drive-train. what i need/want: a new (ergonomic) saddle, kickstand (the two-pronged kind), better bar grips that fit my hands, and eventually rims as mentioned already...

ps. for some reason i hadn't realised this utility forum existed. first time in here!
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I don't think that "jump" is from the cottered crank, but rather the pawls in the hub. Mine does that too--don't know if it's a lack of oil (and too much varnish) or if they all do that.
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Na, - cottered cranks don't jump unless you've gone and knocked out the cotterpins and then fitted them back in finger tight in an absent minded moment.
Have you serviced your BB bearings yet and made sure the ballraces are nicely adjusted? If you've got worn ball bearings in the BB it might jump and wobble a bit.
If your bike hasn't seen any use for a while oil the SA 3 speed often and give it some exercise to get things moving again. The oil does tend to leak out if you put too much in, but I just get into the habit of giving my bikes a good wipe down with a soft cotton rag after a ride and the extra oil helps to keep rust at bay.
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Yep- my best riders are Raleigh 3 Speeds. I wish they'd keep making them.
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You just need to be retro with it and get you one of the mechanical odometers - the kind with the peg that turns the wheel with each revolution...

Like this on my '62 Sports?
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I wonder, what did they go for back in day?

I really wanted one today, my legs were sore from yesterdays ride but a nice slow ride with fat tires on some dirt back roads would have been nice. The Robin Hood that I just got is too small at 48cm, and I haven't swapped out the rear cog just yet anyhow.
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I wonder, what did they go for back in day?

I really wanted one today, my legs were sore from yesterdays ride but a nice slow ride with fat tires on some dirt back roads would have been nice. The Robin Hood that I just got is too small at 48cm, and I haven't swapped out the rear cog just yet anyhow.

Depends on the year...in 1969 a Raleigh Superbe went for about $75 a Sports $62.50 In today's dollars that would be $420 and $350. It varies a bit by year depending on the strength of the currencies involved, tariffs and inflation rate. But it does show that Raleighs weren't cheap bicycles by any means. But I think they were a good value for the money. My dad bought one brand new in 1962 and paid around $45 for his. That was about a week and a half pay for him back then as a junior college professor.

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Depends on the year...in 1969 a Raleigh Superbe went for about $75 a Sports $62.50 In today's dollars that would be $420 and $350. It varies a bit by year depending on the strength of the currencies involved, tariffs and inflation rate. But it does show that Raleighs weren't cheap bicycles by any means. But I think they were a good value for the money. My dad bought one brand new in 1962 and paid around $45 for his. That was about a week and a half pay for him back then as a junior college professor.

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That's what people think of when they look at a Nottingham Raleigh. A bike that's rugged and practically indestructible. My 1968 Raleigh Superbe looks as good as the day it was made.
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Can't quite say that fot my 76 Roadster... Mecheanicaly it is great and mostly original... The paint however is a different story.. The paint on the fenders and chain gurard has oxidzed pretty good while the paint on the frame is still great, almost like new... It almost appears two different kinds of paint were used on these.. Perhaps the fenders and chain guard were sourced out ?...
Still my favorite riding bike though..
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You just need to be retro with it and get you one of the mechanical odometers - the kind with the peg that turns the wheel with each revolution...
Hmmm, something I hadn't thought about. I tend to geek out a little and like to have actual distance rather than goin through the gmaps pedometer and this sounds like the way to go. Like a previous poster said, I don't really want to see speed on the 3-speed but distance only...
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Can't quite say that fot my 76 Roadster... Mecheanicaly it is great and mostly original... The paint however is a different story.. The paint on the fenders and chain gurard has oxidzed pretty good while the paint on the frame is still great, almost like new... It almost appears two different kinds of paint were used on these.. Perhaps the fenders and chain guard were sourced out ?...
Still my favorite riding bike though..
That's one reason I'm glad that my fenders weren't painted. I have the chrome and they look great. The only serious oxidation on it is at the base of the kickstand, the rubber foot ends just a little before the bend and that corner is rusty, but no big.
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I found alloy 26 3/8 rims, they're sun cr18's they come more often in 36 spokes but can be found in 40's. Cambridge Cycle, Broadway Cycles (both in Cambridge MA), and Harris Cyclery (Newton MA) all stock them.

Schwalbe Marathons are the only high end 26 3/8 tire that I've found. Has anyone found a supplier of SA 3 speed coaster hubs?

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I just called Broadway Bike Shop in Cambridge. They haven't gotten a new shipment of 26x1-3/8 rims for six months. They're desperately trying to get more, but I guess Sun hasn't bothered to do a run recently. The Harris website also shows these rims are out-of-stock with no ETA for new ones.

Someone is selling a relatively new S-A 5-spd hub with roller brake on Boston Craig's list. He told me that he special ordered it from Ace Wheelworks. I'm sure they could get you the SA 3-speed coaster hub. The Shimano Nexus 3 also comes with a coaster brake, although it's spaced at 120mm OLD.
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I just called Broadway Bike Shop in Cambridge. They haven't gotten a new shipment of 26x1-3/8 rims for six months. They're desperately trying to get more, but I guess Sun hasn't bothered to do a run recently. The Harris website also shows these rims are out-of-stock with no ETA for new ones.

Someone is selling a relatively new S-A 5-spd hub with roller brake on Boston Craig's list. He told me that he special ordered it from Ace Wheelworks. I'm sure they could get you the SA 3-speed coaster hub. The Shimano Nexus 3 also comes with a coaster brake, although it's spaced at 120mm OLD.
I switched to 700C since it was clear to me the 650A size wouldn't have as good a selection of tires as it once did. If I had to do it today, I would switch to 650B. I now think that's probably the best conversion for a Raleigh Sports since there is now a good selection of rims and tires available for that size.
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I just called Broadway Bike Shop in Cambridge. They haven't gotten a new shipment of 26x1-3/8 rims for six months. They're desperately trying to get more, but I guess Sun hasn't bothered to do a run recently. The Harris website also shows these rims are out-of-stock with no ETA for new ones.

Someone is selling a relatively new S-A 5-spd hub with roller brake on Boston Craig's list. He told me that he special ordered it from Ace Wheelworks. I'm sure they could get you the SA 3-speed coaster hub. The Shimano Nexus 3 also comes with a coaster brake, although it's spaced at 120mm OLD.
I was out at Mt. Airy Bikes (MD) the other day getting a new set of wheels built and Larry hunted all over the place (including calling out to Rivendell) to try and find some alloy rims for me. They just aren't being sold in the US anymore. Maybe if we make a lot more someone will notice
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i'm working on it!

this is the "before" picture, but i don't have a camera and it's not *quite* finished for the "after" shot.

it's a 1971 raleigh sport, made in england. my partner saw the add on craigslist, and it turned out to be someone we knew rfom BF, who also happened to live a block or so away. it was his mother's, but she was having trouble getting on the bike with the high bar.

$50, some new cables, better pedals, and many hours of (free ) labour later, it is my birthday-cruiser-ride. since the old low-end "brooks" was shot (read: felt like i was sitting on the seat post when riding ) i put an old saddle of mine on it until i can afford something better, and a rear mount for a rack bag we had kicking around. it really needs a kickstand; i tried a cheap one that didn't work, but haven't had luck in finding an original-style one. a few other touches may also be added in the future such as a proper front light, better/bigger grips, front basket, and water bottle cage.

as i've said in other threads, it takes some getting used to the looser handling, and the quirks of the SA hub/cottered cranks, but i'm still very proud of it.
This is incredible. I browsed this thread when the Utility Cycling forum was created a couple of weeks ago, looked at the Raleigh Sport you posted and made a mental note to check into them on the used market. I then made a trip to Albany NY to help my fiance sort through her mother's belongings (her mother has developed Alzheimer's and the house will be sold).

In the garage was a 1968 (judging by the stamp on the hub) Raleigh Sport. It appears to be in good shape (no significant rust). The little connector between the cable and the chain coming out of the cylinder attached to the hub is missing. And of course the tires are dry rotted. I already have a couple of Raleigh utility bikes (a Twenty folder and a Shopper) but I'm considering buying it from the estate.

I'm becoming an accidental Raleigh collector. My primary road bike is a recent Raleigh supercourse, all three of my utility bikes are Raleighs (the Twenty, the Shopper, and a monstrously heavy 1970s Raleigh road bike which seems to have the knack for staying in adjustment no matter how badly I abuse it).
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Raleigh Sports are nice bikes - I love my 1947 ladies model and would never part with it.
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