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Old 01-07-08, 01:21 PM   #51
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I have changed all my bikes or at least the ones I ride often to a more upright position. Any position that puts pressure on my wrist just doesn't work for me. To get the seat back far enough on the bikes that need that adjustment I found a couple of doohickeys on handle bars of an old mountain bike in my parts pile. Apparently they are additions to handle bars to make them usable. Sorry I don't know what they are formally called. There is a picture of one unmodified below and and one installed. I cut the extension where the curve starts which leaves my with a 3 inch extension.This is on a cheap Chinese folder that was just terrible to ride the way it was set up originally. With the seat set back three inches it is now comfortable to ride and I no longer feel like a "bear on a bike" circus act although it has been said that I still look like one (I hear giggling behind my back). I use this bike when I have to take my car, not only as a lifeboat but as a way to get around when I go into town.
Never mind the rusty Huffy saddle. It fits my bottom quite well. It will get painted someday but as a member in good standing of the "International Institute of Not Doing Much"(Resistance is futile) I see no reason to hurry.
That's awesome, oldfool. It's doing the very same thing as that doohickey tfahrner put on my seatpost. It seems like it would be such a simple part to produce - I guess there just isn't the demand.
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Well, now I have before and after pictures of my riding position. It sure feels different.

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I have changed all my bikes or at least the ones I ride often to a more upright position. Any position that puts pressure on my wrist just doesn't work for me. To get the seat back far enough on the bikes that need that adjustment I found a couple of doohickeys on handle bars of an old mountain bike in my parts pile. Apparently they are additions to handle bars to make them usable. Sorry I don't know what they are formally called. There is a picture of one unmodified below and and one installed. I cut the extension where the curve starts which leaves my with a 3 inch extension.This is on a cheap Chinese folder that was just terrible to ride the way it was set up originally. With the seat set back three inches it is now comfortable to ride and I no longer feel like a "bear on a bike" circus act although it has been said that I still look like one (I hear giggling behind my back). I use this bike when I have to take my car, not only as a lifeboat but as a way to get around when I go into town.
Never mind the rusty Huffy saddle. It fits my bottom quite well. It will get painted someday but as a member in good standing of the "International Institute of Not Doing Much"(Resistance is futile) I see no reason to hurry.
Great idea! I have a couple of those doohickeys in my parts pile too. I will definitely give that a try and see if it helps me also. Thanks for sharing! BTW, I am a member of I.I.N.D.M. local #659 as well!
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I found one. I like the idea too.
http://www.foldabikes.com/CloseUp/bike/sapMain.html
cman posted this url for a Brompton Saddle Adapter Pin back on 12-21 but they want $25 for it. I like the price of my doohickey better. I wonder what it's called and how it's supposed to be used.

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....................................................... Of course that kind of moves all you weight over tht rear wheel on that particular bike, must be real easy to do wheelies.
I made a half hearted attempt at a wheelie just to see if it might happen accidentally but I could only just get the front wheel off the ground. This is not a high end folder and weighs 36lbs. I suppose an athletic young person could do it as I see them with both wheels off the ground from a standing start but at my age I don't need to be falling.
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cman posted this url for a Brompton Saddle Adapter Pin back on 12-21 but they want $25 for it. I like the price of my doohickey better. I wonder what it's called and how it's supposed to be used.
Looks to me like a bar end...at least that is what I call them. Cool idea for an alternate use. I have a couple of orphans that are going to get pressed into service ASAP.

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Looks good Donna! Sometimes you just have to try different things on a bike until you find what works for you.
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I made a half hearted attempt at a wheelie just to see if it might happen accidentally but I could only just get the front wheel off the ground. This is not a high end folder and weighs 36lbs. I suppose an athletic young person could do it as I see them with both wheels off the ground from a standing start but at my age I don't need to be falling.
Hey, I resemble that remark.
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I never see mentioned one benefit of an upright riding position, no more sore neck. Am I the only one who has that problem from bending my head back?
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cman posted this url for a Brompton Saddle Adapter Pin back on 12-21 but they want $25 for it. I like the price of my doohickey better. I wonder what it's called and how it's supposed to be used.
The only problem with a barend could be strength especially on the cheaper MTB's. As they are not designed for my 190lb. 5'10" body but for a hand andonly part of your body weight.
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The only problem with a barend could be strength especially on the cheaper MTB's. As they are not designed for my 190lb. 5'10" body but for a hand andonly part of your body weight.
I tried this last night. The barend that I tried couldn't support my weight. Better I found out in my garage rather than on the road. That seatpost could wreck havoc with my undercarriage.
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I tried this last night. The barend that I tried couldn't support my weight. Better I found out in my garage rather than on the road. That seatpost could wreck havoc with my undercarriage.
Sorry about your problem and I am truly glad that you tested before depending on it.
I guess all bar ends are not equal. I have been beating the hell out of my adapter and have had no problems. I weigh 210 lbs.
I inspected the bar end I used and found it to be of the same size tubing as a normal seat post (22mm I think but I won't swear to it without measuring it again) and with a excellent weld.
This appears to be a case of "your mileage my vary".
I am currently making another to use in the refurbishing of my Schwinn "grocery getter".
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I never see mentioned one benefit of an upright riding position, no more sore neck. Am I the only one who has that problem from bending my head back?
It is the reason I strive for an up right position.
In the late sixties in southern Calif. the only bikes we would find in the dumpsters would be 3-spds with road style bars and stingrays. The first thing we would do with the road bars was rotate them so that we could sit upright. Having brakes was secondary. Riding with them down was a position that was not only uncomfortable but was also a position that no one seemed to want to be seen in. At least in public. Well some did but they were paid for it. Never mind.
I have issues with extreme recumbents for the same reason only in the other direction. I stopped napping in that position when it started taking the better part of day to be able to see anything but my shoes.
Upright is not very aerodynamic but then I don't go fast enough for that to be a problem. If the wind is blowing then I treat bike riding just the same as I did sailing. I wait until the wind is favorable.
I can ride all day or at least as much as I want anywhere between cruiser and semi-bent without having to have a recovery period.
Thanks for bringing that up. I have been wanting to get that off my chest. I'll go to bed now.
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Donna, weeks later do you still enjoy having the Ergon grips on those swept back bars? I'm wanting a pair of those bars, just feeling antsy about possibly having to ditch my Ergons, which I spent too much money on in the first place
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Donna, weeks later do you still enjoy having the Ergon grips on those swept back bars? I'm wanting a pair of those bars, just feeling antsy about possibly having to ditch my Ergons, which I spent too much money on in the first place
I've a set of Ergons on an Albatross bar and find them to be just as comfortable as they are on my Mary bar or flat bar.
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Donna, weeks later do you still enjoy having the Ergon grips on those swept back bars? I'm wanting a pair of those bars, just feeling antsy about possibly having to ditch my Ergons, which I spent too much money on in the first place
I love them on the North Roads! I even like those little end thingys. You can hang bags from them quite securely.
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Thanks Allen and Donna. The Cr-Mo Albatross is the very bar that I was looking to get
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I like the updates. I would be interested to know where to obtain the part on the seat post that sets the seat position back.
I, too would like to know what that doohicky is called and where one could get one.
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I, too would like to know what that doohicky is called and where one could get one.
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I have changed all my bikes or at least the ones I ride often to a more upright position. Any position that puts pressure on my wrist just doesn't work for me. To get the seat back far enough on the bikes that need that adjustment I found a couple of doohickeys on handle bars of an old mountain bike in my parts pile.
That is a killer mod! I am going to try that. Thanks for being creative!
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Hi Donna,

How long did it take you to wear your seat in that much? I just got a B72 which has the same leather profile as this one but difffferent springs. My B17 and Champion Flyer seemed to break in quicker than the the B72 is.

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Great thread ! I been wondering about that Air horn, Bicycling plus said it was loud but found it flimsy, any comments? Is it worthwhile taking up the space? u happy with it???
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To mowe the seat back: remember you can get seatposts for BMX bikes that is bent back. Maybe not in many sizes though.

I put these type bars on many of my bikes, and also my friends bikes. result is we all hurt alot in the legs for a short period since new ridingposition means using different muscles and that hurts
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1948 Rudge Whitworth

It's not Dutch but rather English and very old.... in riding I find the very slack angles and foot forward position really works the glutes and hamstring which rests my quads a good deal.

It is also the most comfortable and smooth bike I have ever ridden.
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Nice - thanks for posting that link - could prove useful when I'm helping friends get their bikes setup.
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