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Old 12-23-09, 02:19 PM   #226
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I also like the look of a Step through frame longtail. it is aloso easy to mount in some siduations like when you have tall cargo being hauled. A great shot!

my Current longtail is chilling out in a snowbank in my yard. only problem i'm having is the drivetrain is Sometimes very slow reacting of froozen solid, thats do to the 20- weather we get somedays though.
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Here is an update on the long bike. The first store run was a test with only a front basket and a single rear rack just to see how it would work out. It was good so I gave everything a good once over, put the back fender on and transferred the rack and folding Wald baskets from the Schwinn and rolled it out for a test cargo run.

This is ready to roll to the store. It weighs 46 pounds at this point which surprises me. I expected more. The Schwinn with a that rear rack and basket and a front basket weighs 45 pounds.

The dog pack and their cats need fodder but I just kept piling it on until it was full. There is only between 40 and 50 pounds and room for more but unlike I usually do I decided to not overdo it.
It rode perfect and I was pleased.
I worked today on a side loader on the right side so I can carry a propane tank and I'll post an update as soon as I have tested it. The baskets are probably temporary as I am looking for some canvas to sew some bags. I have an idea that I think will work. I have a rack for the front in due time.
More updates as they happen.
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Hey, what is that kickstand you're using? That looks ideal for one of these bikes when loaded.
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Sean - I really like the longtail and the step through... thinking that my girl would like to have one of her own and that she would really like this set up.



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Hey, what is that kickstand you're using? That looks ideal for one of these bikes when loaded.
It's a Sunlite Double by Pyramid that I bought from Amazon.com. It's some kind of alloy and looks heavy but it's not. It hangs down kind of low and scrapes in even a moderate turn. Raising the bottom bracket one inch would pretty much take care of that problem but what do I care? At 8 mph it's not much of a problem.
The only other thing is the rubber tips where it contacts the ground fell off at first usage so I'm going to glue them on.
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This is really cool and had to give it a try.

I think I'm at about 5 hours into it.

I modified a kickstand bracket then welded the bolt and bracket to the tube.Then the tube to the frame.




The rear axle from the donor was used.
I was able to press in flat washers into the little tube to keep the axle stable,Larger washers on the outside.



This is where it at now. Wheel base is at 58"s.


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Michael - That is some really nice work.

Makes we want to tear mine apart and rebuild things to make them prettier... I do have a new rack and deck assembly in the works so might just do that.
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Old 01-13-10, 06:30 PM   #233
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you ARE going to post pics... right? =)
This reminds me that I should take some updated pics to show the braces...

Building a bike this really does not require advanced mechanical skills unless you are looking at welding... with basic repair skills most folks should be able to cobble together a really decent long bike and if you run into problems we are always here to offer advice.

I am finding that the longbike is the best for real winter riding...

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Thanks! Sixty Fiver...This thread was a great help!

The close up pictures really helps eliminate the guess work.

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More updates as they happen.
It has been so cold here that this old southern wimp just has not been able to wrap my hand around a wrench. I did get in a few hours however and this up date bears the result.

This growth on the side of the bike is my version of a side loader. It is not an original idea but I am sorry to say I don't know where I got the idea. I saw it online somewhere and I have searched diligently but cannot find it. If anyone should happen to know who posted this please let me know so I can give credit. I'm not smart enough to think this up.

It is a folding wall hanger for a bicycle and cost $6.02 USD plus tax license and dealer prep in Lowe's hardware. I attached it to the frame with various pieces of hardware from my junk box.


When it swings down it makes a place to put stuff.


Such as a propane tank.
It does throw the bike off balance a bit. This is a full tank and the bike needs the aid of one of my rustic homemade crooked walking sticks to keep it from falling over like a dead bug. As soon as I started riding I hardly noticed it was there.

I had attached the center stand to the stock thin mild steel hanger on the bike and that didn't work out so I modified that. The stand itself seems to work fine except for the exception seen above.
There are more pictures at http://www.oldfool.org/2010/01/old-f...pdate-3-i.html

Now that I've got it this far I'm going to tear down and redo the cargo area. What is there works but I now have this perfectly good skateboard (courtesy of my grandson) that's begging to be used. But first I have to haul more dog food.
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I want to build one of these, but i'm not sure what bikes to use, I have a few to choose from. (pictures below) I can find some more if need be (I don't mind dumpster diving)So far, I want to use the two large mountain bikes. The two little ones are SUPER small.



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I want to build one of these, but i'm not sure what bikes to use, I have a few to choose from. (pictures below) I can find some more if need be (I don't mind dumpster diving)So far, I want to use the two large mountain bikes. The two little ones are SUPER small.



OK, you have the base makings of a longtail by stripping those two bikes and doing a little mix 'n' match; the rear wheel suspension arm assembly from the blue bike will make the longtail frame. remove the shock and fit a ridgid bar down from the shock mount and fix it to the frame of the Magna step through.
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OK, you have the base makings of a longtail by stripping those two bikes and doing a little mix 'n' match; the rear wheel suspension arm assembly from the blue bike will make the longtail frame. remove the shock and fit a ridgid bar down from the shock mount and fix it to the frame of the Magna step through.
Where do I find a longer cables?
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You may need to buy tandem length shifter cables... any LBS should have them in stock or be able to order them in.
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You may need to buy tandem length shifter cables... any LBS should have them in stock or be able to order them in.
Thanks.

Would you suggest I make the front a single gear?
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I started with a 1 by 8 with my longbike then moved to a 2 by 8 and then went to a full on triple up front as there were a few occasions I would spin things out, especially when I am running slicks (summer) and have no cargo. I have probably gotten the longbike up to 40 kmh on flat ground...

I run a 28/38/48 with a 12-32 in the rear and 90% of the time I am using the middle ring for most of my riding and hauling as that gives me almost all the range I need.

In the winter having that granny can be nice as I often find myself riding through some pretty sticky slush where you want to keep up a good spin and on a longbike you want to spin at good rpm as mashing is murder on the knees when you are loaded up.
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Hey sixty the mixte longtail I made was an awesome bike and looked great. I think she would love it. Also as for tandem cables if your cheap like me. well... to lazy to go to the store, I have alot of bike cables so I just extend one with a few washers a bold and a nut. SCORE! tandem imatation cable! lol

Also that roadmaster bike dosn't have the correct rear end, I think. the bottom bracket should be on the back end, well it makes it easy to build, i've never attempted to build one with that type.

I also found a pretty good size rack for the back of these bikes, Ikea sells these desks called Galant Desks and theres a under frame that comes in many sizes that seems too be a good size, you can even cut it and put it level with the back axle for a support bar. so many ideas!
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I also found a pretty good size rack for the back of these bikes, Ikea sells these desks called Galant Desks and theres a under frame that comes in many sizes that seems too be a good size, you can even cut it and put it level with the back axle for a support bar. so many ideas!
Tell us more about this! Would you use it s a rack (abov wheels for hanging panniers and stuff) or low, as some s or of wideloader? Do they sell them separately or do you need to buy the desktop (or legs) with it? Used to be plenty stuff in the "cheap corner" at my Ikea warehouse, but less now.

Weight?

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Best thing about ikea is everything is sold in pieces and you can also make this piece longer or buy small ones and make bigger!

heres a picture of one
http://blog.ianmeyerphotography.com/...09-02-15_9.jpg
heres one I converted into a trailer to haul cases of pop from the store to my home, it's the perfect size, it may be a tad heavy because it's steel but meh, it's square tubing and with all the parts they sell for this theres parts to connect them so you could alter them to be wider or slimmer. plus Ikea has an as is section where these can be even cheaper lol


Theres also other things there that could make great parts. like the L shaped steel beams from their beds
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Nice concept... Could you show it hitched up?
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That I cannot do because i've already cut that up. it basicly tightened around a bike fork that was sticking out from behind Mr Apococycle. lol
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I built bamboo trailers so that a box from Ikea can be stuck in the trailerframe, makes it much stiffer. Also you can put another box or more on top since there is lids for the boxes. Great system.
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Yeah Ikea has alot of usefull stuff that can be used, My winter longtail is holding up pretty good, theres alot of rust on it amd it's covered in salt but it works still
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I think the greatest appeal of this entire thread is how innovative people have been in building their bikes and for the most part using the materials at hand.

Everything on my bike (except my rear v brake) has been recycled or re-used save for the consumables like cables, housings, and brake pads.
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Yes! and we should keep doing that! recycling is the bomb. I don't buy new bike parts, the odd time I do.

How sean Gets bike parts by "shopping" Tuesday night is garbage night, Basicly I take my longtail out and Fill it up with all kinds of bikes and parts, you should see what people throw out, I got a huge Lcd tv one day that I fixed lol
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