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    You guys have piqued my interest.

    Generally, is the dropout/bb joint connected with bolts to the bb spindle? Or is there something else going on there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobilechimp View Post
    You guys have piqued my interest.

    Generally, is the dropout/bb joint connected with bolts to the bb spindle? Or is there something else going on there?

    Did you take yourtime to look at all the posts in this thread and follow links? There should be plenty info in there, but I am afraid you need to take some time to find it all. it should have been collected in a way that made it easyer to find but who want to spend the time (and money) to make a homepage for these great bikes.

    I suggest you do not use the BB spindle. It is strong but narrow, you need to force the two dropouts together more than is good for the strenght of the frame. A rear wheel axel has been used. I use threaded rods cut to right size (make sure you use a good quality one).

    But then you need "stuff" to fill up the empty BB housing. I leave the cups in place (after taking the axle out), that narrows the hole you need to fill. Personally I use steel curtain rods from IKEA, and important:

    To keep the correct (and stable) distance between the front frames dropout and the cup in the rear triangles BB I use a piece of alu handlebars cut to correct size on each side. Tighten.

    If you want to use a IGH (I do) make sure at least one of the frames has got horzontal dropouts for easy chain tensioning. Often at least the rear triangle do, they often come of crappy "full suspension MTB`S" .

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    Well, tried selling this but no luck. So I'm thinking of extracycling it.

    What do ya'think.

    3 speeds? 5 speeds?


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    Went a different direction since I need something more my size....

    27" wheel with short reach sidepull brake on the rear.


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    Looking good.
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    I would agree; good looking build, Michael. However, is that rear rack configuration temporary? If not, how are you going to carry all that extra cargo with just one rear rack? Looks like the paint on the two bikes is a perfect match. (I like the bike in your other photo too.)

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    Smile



    The rear rack is just temp.Its mounted to the reflector bracket currently and may or may not remove/relocate the other brake calipers.Looks as though I'll need to modify the second rack a little so it sits flush
    The paint is Crylon metals base and matches really close.

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    Nice looking build, My mountain bike one had very thin tires like road bike tires and I had a big flat issue quite offten, it might of been where I was riding though. I think because the size you hit little rocks pretty good with em. As for the rear rack, use a skateboard with two racks. it's easy and works. I suggest thick alloy rack or steel racks. I found a downside to the normal alloy ones, It collapsed on a ride one day. On the bring side, road bike cargo bikes look great, i've built one before too.
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    Just take your time to play around with racks to find a good fit.I am lucky to have great racks available locally at £ 10 each so I buy two when I decide a new longtail is a keeper, but sometimes it is better with two different ones to get a good match. Wait until you are sure your angels are right (BB height and so on) before you decide on racks.

    Personally I do not like the skateboard solution (but I lke the look of it) snce it is extra weight and I find it easyer to attach stuff (like normal panniers) to a normat rack top.

    I am thinking of building a IGH fast light longtail for my son since he bikes to school and has got a lot of stuff (often two bags) to carry on the bike. Baskets would solve it, but try to make a 14 yr old boy use baskets to school . Been thinking of putting beer crates to make him accept it but I am worryed about the signal effect .

    Only problem is the bie is looong so not easy to pick him up by car. Maybe another detatchable longtail..

    Keep us updated.
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    The skateboard deck is so handy for tying down loads like big bags of dog food and when I do off site repairs it provides a handy sanding surface for cable housings...

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    Wow.. I just re-read this entire thread from start to finish (again).

    Thinking it was The Girl who turned me on to this thread in the first place and she continues to support me in all the bike related things I do and even questions when I tell her I am considering selling one of my bikes... she is definately a keeper.

    So we started like this...

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    Went through a few incarnations...

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    Realized how much I miss my pond...

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    Found other ponds...

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    And seem to have arrived here.



    Time sure flies when you are having fun and pretty soon my bike will be 2 years old and we've almost survived out second winter and only wiped out once... and when you put a bike this long and heavy into a skid you just have to ride it out.

    Best thing though... getting to know all of you.

    Am looking forward to spring and hope more people are inspired to make their own "extrabikes".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    The skateboard deck is so handy for tying down loads like big bags of dog food and when I do off site repairs it provides a handy sanding surface for cable housings...
    You could attach a vise and a truing stand to it. Cut your bread and eat your lunch on it. More comfortable to sit on for a pasenger for sure.
    °Empty drums make a lot of noice... (Old Hungarian proverb).

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    Well the time has come! it seems like the warmer weather is comming and I can now start on this next build. I love my ugly current longtail but I desire something that will look great and ride like I want it too.

    So what to make? I made a vintage long tail before and it looked awesome. so why not make another one? but a 3 speed and use my old friend whos helped me these past years . because of this bike I'm a huge antique/vintage bike Fan. so as a reward I shall make him a longtail so he can assist me daily!.

    This is my choice bike for this build.


    Look foward to something nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmother View Post
    You could attach a vise and a truing stand to it. Cut your bread and eat your lunch on it. More comfortable to sit on for a pasenger for sure.
    I give my daughters rides on a near daily basis when I pick them up from school...

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    Quote Originally Posted by badmother View Post
    You could attach a vise and a truing stand to it. Cut your bread and eat your lunch on it.


    Quote Originally Posted by HSean View Post
    Look foward to something nice!
    Keep us posted...with details!!
    I'll be surprised if I find work anytime soon.Too much time on my hands and keep eyeballing my Raleigh sports.

    I snagged a rack today for .50 cents. Heavy crome/steel. With the rider and all it must be pushing 300lbs.

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    I should be starting the build sometime this week. I'm wondering if I should make it only rear disc brake or keep it all vintage like the sports was. I might also make custom Trussrods for the forks because i find those weird Forks bent easy. I hope it turns out nice, I love Raleigh sports
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    Well Due to the lack of parts I have to hold off on the Sports Project, BUT! It dosn't mean I wont build a longtail. you know alot of these I have built where kinda ugly. So i'm gonna do it right on this next one, I decided to use the frame of a Kona I bought for 40$ It was busted up but there was good disc wheels. I also had a rear triangle that was same color as Kona and could take disc brakes. it was even the same tubing design.

    Sorry for those who wanted to see the Raliegh sports, but it will come hopfully sometime this summer.

    So heres what I started with. for some reason the paint hated my camera, it's flat black but turned that when pic taken


    And i'e got no pics of how it stands now, but will soon.
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    °Empty drums make a lot of noice... (Old Hungarian proverb).

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    Aww those little 20" are cute I may have to make one!.
    heres a update on my bike thats not an update because it's now 90% finished but not shown in this pic. just gotta make a custom rack for the back.


    If you look closely you can see the older longtail I made, Winter took it's tole on it and it died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HSean View Post

    If you look closely you can see the older longtail I made, Winter took it's tole on it and it died.
    From Frostbite?



    Brrrr...Makes me glad I have a heated garage.

    I like the handle bars.I picked up a couple of donors and 3 more racks today for 5 bucks.I'm stocking up for lotsa fun.

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    Then handle bars come in handy, they are my temp brace till I get something else.

    So here it is rideable now. I rode it to work yesterday and got a flat tire and once you get one with the large tires it had. your dead stopped on the spot lol I ride on flats offten but it was to hard s the bike spent the night locked to a random post. theres a spare wheel on it right now.

    I think Frostbite had a part to play in killing it. lol Still under investigation!

    Here it is.
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    After I read all posts and watch all pictures, I decided to make my own xtracycle. I knew about xtracycle from long time, but now it cames the ideea.
    Last year I buil a tandem frame, I make some trips whit my wife on that tandem, and after that I take it off all the pieces because I need them for another project.
    Meanwhile I buy a new tandem frame, so the old one is available. I think to transform the old tandem frame into some kind of xtracycle. Is not actualy an xtracycle, but anyway is a very long bike.
    I put an old fork and some wheels from another bike on the tandem frame to see how it looks. I have some good parts ready to use - o new ridig fork whit disc brake, right now I'm buildind 2 wheels, drive train, brakes, deraileurs. I will buy the rest of pieces and I'll painted black & gray.
    I'm planing to build a custom rack, and maybe I will weld it directly to the frame. I find a piece o polished wood for the top of the rack.
    What do you think guys? It is a good ideea, or I wasting my time and money? I apreciate any advices or critics.
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    Lucian - That tandem should make the mother of all extrabikes... have considered using a tandem frame myself but would make sure it could still be used as such in case you found a good stoker.

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    Welding the rack directly will be much, much stronger than bolting it on. You can then make the side wings a little lower for better weight distribution.

    :)ensen.
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