Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 12 of 12
  1. #1
    2k miles from the midwest Dylansbob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Washington
    My Bikes
    Sanner porteur ss, Soma Double Cross DC, Airborne Sortie, Bridgestone MB5
    Posts
    583
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Recomendations for a fast loaded 700c tire

    I've just about completely started riding my touring rig for all my errands and am due for a new set of tires. My bike started out with just a milk krate for hauling, but I recently switched to a set of Wald baskets. Currently, I'm running cheap nashbar 700 x 28 tires, but would like something a little quicker uphill.

  2. #2
    aka Phil Jungels Wanderer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    North Aurora, IL
    My Bikes
    08 Specialized Crosstrail Sport, 05 Sirrus Comp
    Posts
    5,857
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Wouldn't we all ---- LOL

    "Retirement is the best job I ever had!" Me, 2009


    Specialized Crosstrail Sport - '08
    Nishiki Sport - misappropriated from my youngest son (circa 1984)
    Marin Stinson - misappropriated by my youngest grandson - '01
    "The Beast" - 1990 Schwinn Airdyne (in the basement for winter torture)

  3. #3
    Senior Member Fat Tire's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Edge of the Texas Hill Country
    My Bikes
    Torker Cargo-T, 1972 Raleigh
    Posts
    147
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Schwalbe Marathon Plus/Extreme. I prefer Schwalbe for most tires, and these are fairly flat proof, smooth, roll well. Up hill you are on your own. The only wheel I know of to help you up a hill is from Bionx or Stoke Monkey.
    If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room!

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    pike
    My Bikes
    1 Custom built Colin Laing
    Posts
    101
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Michlin "Pilot city",

    A police stop stick couldnt puncture them / they have a reflective sidewall to keep you safe at night & they roll pretty quick. **Uphill depends on how fast & tough your getaway sticks are.

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    54
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I've been very happy with my Vittoria Randonneur Hypers. The hypers are noticeably faster than the normal randonnerus they replaced. They only come in 32, 35, and 37 mm tho so they may not fit your frame.

    Chris

  6. #6
    Eater of Food WillJL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    My Bikes
    Surly Long Haul Trucker, Follis Concorde Tandem, Surly Big Dummy
    Posts
    103
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Apparently the "Marathon Supreme" is the fastest rolling tire that Schwalbe recommends for hard touring use, but I'm with FatTire in thinking that no tire is going to help you up a hill.

  7. #7
    One legged rider
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Moraga, CA
    My Bikes
    Kuota Kharma, Surly LHT, CAAD9, Bianchi fg/ss
    Posts
    1,390
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Panaracer Urban Max are marketed as a commuter tire, but work pretty well. They weren't my first choice but I got a set dirt cheap in a clearance sale and am very happy with them. My 32mm tires are really light compared to most on the market.

  8. #8
    cyclopath vik's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Victoria, BC
    My Bikes
    Surly Krampus, Surly Straggler, Pivot Mach 6, Bike Friday Tikit, Bike Friday Tandem, Santa Cruz Nomad
    Posts
    5,237
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by WillJL View Post
    Apparently the "Marathon Supreme" is the fastest rolling tire that Schwalbe recommends for hard touring use, but I'm with FatTire in thinking that no tire is going to help you up a hill.
    Going uphill air resistance isn't a factor due to lower speeds which means rolling resistance from your tires is the most significant factor besides bike weight that will determine your speed for a given power input. Any tire promoted as flat proof or highly flat resistant will be slow as will cheap Nashbar tires. The fastest practical 700c tire I've used is the 700c x 30mm Grad Bois Cypres.

    You have to decide if you'd rather spend 10mins occasionally fixing a flat or spend hours riding considerably more slowly without any flats???
    safe riding - Vik
    VikApproved

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    127
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by vik View Post
    Any tire promoted as flat proof or highly flat resistant will be slow
    Why is this?

  10. #10
    The wizard of ...
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    My Bikes
    Surly Cross Check, Surly Pugsley, M5 Shockproof, BikeE, 2 mountain bikes, single speed/fixed MTB, burley piccolo, salsa mukluk ti, CETMA cargo bike.
    Posts
    133
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by rtciv View Post
    Why is this?
    Fast tires generally have supple casings so that they lose less energy when they deform from road imperfections. The most flat resistant tires will be less supple due to the flat resistant layers.There are tires (like the Marathon Supreme) that try to compromise, but in general flat resistance comes at the price of speed.
    I haven't tried the Grand Bois tires yet (I will), but in an errand bike, I like to look for a little more flat resistance.

    If they fit, Schwalbe Big Apples work really well for hauling loads around town. I have also had good luck with my Marathon Supreme.
    I used to use Pasela Tourguard tires on my touring bikes and they seldom got flats but were still reasonably fast. They weren't as fast as the Marathon Supreme though.

  11. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    127
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by coldbike View Post
    Fast tires generally have supple casings so that they lose less energy when they deform from road imperfections. The most flat resistant tires will be less supple due to the flat resistant layers.There are tires (like the Marathon Supreme) that try to compromise, but in general flat resistance comes at the price of speed.
    I see - in your experience how much of a difference might we expect from this factor? Imagine two sets of tyres with the same width, shape and weight but one being however much stiffer than the other, due to puncture-protection.

  12. #12
    The wizard of ...
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    My Bikes
    Surly Cross Check, Surly Pugsley, M5 Shockproof, BikeE, 2 mountain bikes, single speed/fixed MTB, burley piccolo, salsa mukluk ti, CETMA cargo bike.
    Posts
    133
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It is a tough one to answer objectively since I don't spend a lot of time timing myself these days.I know that when I switched from tioga city slickers, which are quite stiff, to Big Apples which are not so stiff, the difference was about 5 minutes in a 45 minute commute. Ironically, the Tioga's stiffness was not actual puncture protection. The Big Apples have a kevlar layer of some sort and have pretty good protection.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •