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Old 06-05-10, 12:02 PM   #1
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Recomendations for a fast loaded 700c tire

I've just about completely started riding my touring rig for all my errands and am due for a new set of tires. My bike started out with just a milk krate for hauling, but I recently switched to a set of Wald baskets. Currently, I'm running cheap nashbar 700 x 28 tires, but would like something a little quicker uphill.
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Schwalbe Marathon Plus/Extreme. I prefer Schwalbe for most tires, and these are fairly flat proof, smooth, roll well. Up hill you are on your own. The only wheel I know of to help you up a hill is from Bionx or Stoke Monkey.
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Michlin "Pilot city",

A police stop stick couldnt puncture them / they have a reflective sidewall to keep you safe at night & they roll pretty quick. **Uphill depends on how fast & tough your getaway sticks are.
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I've been very happy with my Vittoria Randonneur Hypers. The hypers are noticeably faster than the normal randonnerus they replaced. They only come in 32, 35, and 37 mm tho so they may not fit your frame.

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Apparently the "Marathon Supreme" is the fastest rolling tire that Schwalbe recommends for hard touring use, but I'm with FatTire in thinking that no tire is going to help you up a hill.
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Panaracer Urban Max are marketed as a commuter tire, but work pretty well. They weren't my first choice but I got a set dirt cheap in a clearance sale and am very happy with them. My 32mm tires are really light compared to most on the market.
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Apparently the "Marathon Supreme" is the fastest rolling tire that Schwalbe recommends for hard touring use, but I'm with FatTire in thinking that no tire is going to help you up a hill.
Going uphill air resistance isn't a factor due to lower speeds which means rolling resistance from your tires is the most significant factor besides bike weight that will determine your speed for a given power input. Any tire promoted as flat proof or highly flat resistant will be slow as will cheap Nashbar tires. The fastest practical 700c tire I've used is the 700c x 30mm Grad Bois Cypres.

You have to decide if you'd rather spend 10mins occasionally fixing a flat or spend hours riding considerably more slowly without any flats???
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Any tire promoted as flat proof or highly flat resistant will be slow
Why is this?
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Why is this?
Fast tires generally have supple casings so that they lose less energy when they deform from road imperfections. The most flat resistant tires will be less supple due to the flat resistant layers.There are tires (like the Marathon Supreme) that try to compromise, but in general flat resistance comes at the price of speed.
I haven't tried the Grand Bois tires yet (I will), but in an errand bike, I like to look for a little more flat resistance.

If they fit, Schwalbe Big Apples work really well for hauling loads around town. I have also had good luck with my Marathon Supreme.
I used to use Pasela Tourguard tires on my touring bikes and they seldom got flats but were still reasonably fast. They weren't as fast as the Marathon Supreme though.
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Fast tires generally have supple casings so that they lose less energy when they deform from road imperfections. The most flat resistant tires will be less supple due to the flat resistant layers.There are tires (like the Marathon Supreme) that try to compromise, but in general flat resistance comes at the price of speed.
I see - in your experience how much of a difference might we expect from this factor? Imagine two sets of tyres with the same width, shape and weight but one being however much stiffer than the other, due to puncture-protection.
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It is a tough one to answer objectively since I don't spend a lot of time timing myself these days.I know that when I switched from tioga city slickers, which are quite stiff, to Big Apples which are not so stiff, the difference was about 5 minutes in a 45 minute commute. Ironically, the Tioga's stiffness was not actual puncture protection. The Big Apples have a kevlar layer of some sort and have pretty good protection.
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