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elbows 08-09-13 07:07 AM

Grocery Bag Panniers
 
For the last 10 years or so, I've done all my grocery shopping with a pair of Trek grocery bag panniers. Aside from a terrible attachment system (which I replaced early on with some Arkel hooks), they were pretty much the ideal grocery pannier for me. Unfortunately, they're now falling apart beyond the point that duct tape can help, and Trek no longer makes them. So I'm looking for a replacement.

There are a few things that made these bags great:
* Top loading
* Large capacity (about 1250 cu inches each)
* Tall/narrow shape carries a load better than the short/squat design of many grocery panniers
* Open top means I can carry tall items sticking out the top of the bag (I actually do this fairly often)
* Compression straps cinch down the top of the bag so my stuff doesn't fly out

I've done some searching and come up with a few potential successors. But I can't find any of these locally to check them out.

Banjo Bros Market Pannier. These are my current front-runner. But they do have a lid and I'm not sure how well things would stay put if I left it open to accomodate a tall item.

Sunlite Grocery Getter. These look similar to my current bags but I can't find much information on them. Has anyone used them?

Bontrager Market Pannier. These look about the right size but Bontrager doesn't list a capacity for them. The backpack straps could come in handy on occasion. But they also have a lid that could get in the way.

Bontrager City Grocery Bag. These look a little bit short and squat. The capacity is listed but I can't find the dimensions anywhere.

Does anyone have thoughts about these panniers? Or another option that I missed?

PlanoFuji 08-09-13 12:55 PM

My personal favourite is the arkel grocery bag panniers. With two of them, I have no problem carrying enough groceries for 1-2 weeks for myself. The construction quality is fantastic, and I doubt I will ever need to replace them barring theft.

Also, here is a forum search with a number of similar threads over the years; http://www.bikeforums.net/search.php?searchid=7786122

mr,grumpy 08-23-13 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by elbows (Post 15942258)
For the last 10 years or so, I've done all my grocery shopping with a pair of Trek grocery bag panniers. Aside from a terrible attachment system (which I replaced early on with some Arkel hooks), they were pretty much the ideal grocery pannier for me. Unfortunately, they're now falling apart beyond the point that duct tape can help, and Trek no longer makes them. So I'm looking for a replacement.



Bontrager Market Pannier. These look about the right size but Bontrager doesn't list a capacity for them. The backpack straps could come in handy on occasion. But they also have a lid that could get in the way.



Does anyone have thoughts about these panniers? Or another option that I missed?

1315 cubic inches.

ka0use 08-28-13 12:00 AM

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www.axiomgear.com

you may have to use amazon.com. couldn't find any local dealers here.
note these are sold seperately.

Artkansas 08-28-13 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by elbows (Post 15942258)
Sunlite Grocery Getter. These look similar to my current bags but I can't find much information on them. Has anyone used them?

I use the SunLite Grocery getters. I love them. The ones I have are closest to the C-Sport Grocery Getter Pannier Bag. They are tough and have even survived having a semi-truck run over them because of a badly timed heel-strike. (My rack is too short.) I'm not sure how long I've had them, maybe 4-5 years. My biggest critique of them is that they do not have reflective material on the front and back, only on the side.

bkrownd 09-04-13 03:34 PM

My experience with the fabric "grocery bag panniers" is one of frustration. After a few months of use they get loosey-goosey and tend to flop around when the bike is pedalled hard, and I have to occasionally adjust my pedalling to avoid the frequency which really makes them resonate. (really frustrating when you're pushing hard to keep up momentum on a hill, or trying to build up speed in traffic) They flop around enough that it increases heel-strike, by which I have even had one jump off the rack and dump its contents all over the street. (Added a bunch of cable-ties after that) At some point I'm going to replace the fabric things with metal baskets, but since those have to be mail ordered it's hard to anticipate whether they'll fit my bike well.

PlanoFuji 09-05-13 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bkrownd (Post 16031431)
My experience with the fabric "grocery bag panniers" is one of frustration. After a few months of use they get loosey-goosey and tend to flop around when the bike is pedalled hard, and I have to occasionally adjust my pedalling to avoid the frequency which really makes them resonate. (really frustrating when you're pushing hard to keep up momentum on a hill, or trying to build up speed in traffic) They flop around enough that it increases heel-strike, by which I have even had one jump off the rack and dump its contents all over the street. (Added a bunch of cable-ties after that) At some point I'm going to replace the fabric things with metal baskets, but since those have to be mail ordered it's hard to anticipate whether they'll fit my bike well.

You may want to consider the Arkel shoppers. While expensive, they are extremely durable, don't suffer from the problems you describe, and unlike baskets are easy to bring into the store and have the groceries placed directly in them. They also sport the best pannier mounting system I have ever tried...

randomgear 09-05-13 10:17 PM

I've been using the Arkel Shoppers for the past three years. I usually roll with just one, it's big enough to hold an entire overstuffed grocery hand basket, or at least four six packs of your favorite glass bottled beverage. They fold up flat, but you can still put a few supplies in the folded up pannier. They can be taken apart relatively easily with an allen key and a wrench so that you can wash them, mine are due for another round through the wash.

Artkansas 09-05-13 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bkrownd (Post 16031431)
My experience with the fabric "grocery bag panniers" is one of frustration. After a few months of use they get loosey-goosey and tend to flop around when the bike is pedalled hard

The SunLite Grocery Getters have strong plastic inserts to help the bag maintain its shape.

bkrownd 09-06-13 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PlanoFuji (Post 16034829)
You may want to consider the Arkel shoppers. While expensive, they are extremely durable, don't suffer from the problems you describe, and unlike baskets are easy to bring into the store and have the groceries placed directly in them. They also sport the best pannier mounting system I have ever tried...

I think what I have is the Nashbar Townie or equivalent, which appear to be very similar to the Arkel, so I'm not sure how the Arkel would avoid the sloshing motion I mentioned. Unless there is a rigid frame inside to prevent the bag from changing shape, the contents will always be able to push the fabric around.

PlanoFuji 09-06-13 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bkrownd (Post 16038459)
I think what I have is the Nashbar Townie or equivalent, which appear to be very similar to the Arkel, so I'm not sure how the Arkel would avoid the sloshing motion I mentioned. Unless there is a rigid frame inside to prevent the bag from changing shape, the contents will always be able to push the fabric around.

They have an internal metal frame/supports that still allow them to fold flat, yet make then very sturdy when opened. The bottom also has a solid (plastic?) base which provides additional support. The material they are made from is also heavier and quite sturdy. I have carried a wide variety of grocery (and other items) in them and never experienced the problem you described with yours.

The capacity is larger than your requirement, they have an open top, but include a removable waterproof(resistent) cover that can cinch down and close the top if desire.

And finally, in my opinion, Arkel as the best pannier mounting system made, bar none. When properly attached they simply can't bounce off unless the cam locks actually break. And given how well they are made, I suspect only something like a car accident would cause that.

While what you have may look cosmetically similar to the Arkel product I am certain the sum of the physical differences (cheap materials, mounting system, and internal design) are what account for your issues with your current bags. The details matter, and if your product is indeed like the Nashbar ones, the primary design criteria for those was low price. On this forum if you do a search for the Arkel shoppers, I do not believe I have every seen a single review from someone who owned them who was disappointed in their performance.

kris7047th 09-09-13 05:48 AM

I have been using a set of Ortlieb Sport Packer Plus since April and either my Madrona MTB, rear rack or my new Trek 520. The bags have been awesome for grocery shopping .. so convenient on/off the bike, top prevents anything from falling out.

wahoonc 09-09-13 09:31 AM

Wald folding baskets with large drop in grocery bags, same foot print as the old brown paper bag, but taller with handles.

Aaron :)

urbanescapee 09-14-13 11:30 PM

I really like these REI/Novara Panniers and what's better is that right now they're on sale $34 each (down from $50 each). They are quite sizable in volume, very stable on the rack, and the built in handles allow you to use it just like a reusable grocery bag so that you can save the paper/plastic. It has an open top but is equipped with a buckle strap to cinch the top shut if you don't want things bouncing out. Also it folds up very nicely when not loaded. I have an older version which is basically the same except that they raised the position of the hooks so that it rides lower on your rack (better for stability and use of the top of the rack) and the older version didn't have the strap across the opening.

http://www.rei.com/product/825299/no...e-bike-pannier

fietsbob 09-15-13 11:09 AM

Im using my Touring bike for Grocery runs and the Back Rollers as my shopping bags

one of the 2 big stores here gives me .05 credit for using them, like bringing a cloth bag

instead of the carryout bags.. and Its dry inside the bag, even if I go to and from the store in the Rain.

'TrekTrager' has welded seam bags, too .

But, the Quick opening Locking hooks on Ortlieb are hard to better.

kris7047th 09-16-13 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 16067648)
Im using my Touring bike for Grocery runs and the Back Rollers as my shopping bags

one of the 2 big stores here gives me .05 credit for using them, like bringing a cloth bag

instead of the carryout bags.. and Its dry inside the bag, even if I go to and from the store in the Rain.

'TrekTrager' has welded seam bags, too .

But, the Quick opening Locking hooks on Ortlieb are hard to better.

This .. I take my bags into the store and load them up before I leave. It's a one handed loading on the bike that make it so simple and convenient. Nothing will fall out, bags are waterproof and roomy. AND .. they don't rattle on the rack when you properly adjust the mounts.

memebag 09-17-13 03:36 PM

I need something like this. I just got a Giant Escape City. I'm not sure if any of these will fit on the rack thingy that came with the bike. Any advice, you experts?

memebag 09-25-13 07:50 AM

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I picked up two "Novara 'Round Town" panniers from REI last week. I tried some of the others on my bike, but they hung down too low and hit my heel. These are pretty shallow, but they'll get the job done.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=342638


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