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Old 11-23-13, 03:00 PM   #1
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Bike seat for a kid -- anything that will clamp onto a road bike?

I'm looking for a bike seat to attach to a road bike (titanium / carbon frame).

Ideally looking for something where I could install a bracket to my frame, and i could clip the seat on / off to the bracket.

I'm looking at the Yepp mini but I'm thinking with the drop bars on my bike it wouldn't work. Do any of you guys know a good bike seat for a 1 year old baby? Something that would install behind the seat? Any help would be much appreciated.

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So basically I'm looking for a baby seat that installs on a road bike, but my frame doesn't have any eyelets for a bike rack or anything. And I can only have one bike in my tiny apartment, so it's got to be mounted on my roadie. Thanks!
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a rear rack with a removable baby seat, http://www.topeak.com/products/Child...babyseat_wrack


You are a Parent Now, sell the road bike and get something that will take a rear rack and a child seat

a step through frame is easier to cope with the Mounting the bike

without swinging your leg over the Kid in the Seat, ... Duck! ..


Ill add , this past weekend we had a visit from a couple young guys, Swedes.From there,

they had already ridden down the AlCan Highway Alaska Yukon, BC, Wa state ..

they were on step through Aluminum framed 'ladies' bikes , FWIW.

Easier to get on and off with loads on Both Wheel's racks.

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Old 11-23-13, 06:34 PM   #4
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You can also consider a trailer - more likely you'll be able to use your current bike.
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There are a few rear bike seats that don't require a rack:
Yepp Maxi
Bobike Maxi
Britax (http://www.amazon.com/Britax-USA-K05...itax+bike+seat)

There is also a Bulldog top tube seat (assuming you have a round top tube). Since the foot brackets on this angle down more, it might not interfere with your drops. Adeline Adeline in NYC used to carry it, but it looks like they might not anymore: http://www.adelineadeline.com/kids/c...ing-guide.html

However, I would be very hesitant about clamping down the mounting brackets for any of these seats on a carbon frame. I would be concerned about damaging the frame. You would probably be better served by buying an inexpensive hybrid bike for riding with kids.
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Oh, sorry, I missed the "can only have 1 bike in my apartment." Another alternative, though this would require waiting until your child is older, is the Tyke Toter, which mounts to your seatpost--if you have a carbon seatpost, it would be easy enough to swap for an alloy post:

http://www.amazon.com/TYKE-TOTER-Fro...rds=tyke+toter

I don't think your ride position would be very comfortable though.
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I think old steel road bikes are fine for this, but not new AL/CF bikes. I have used a 26" Dahon folder with a Topeak Baby Seat with great results.
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The normal mounting method for the captain on a stoker is to put a leg over the top tube without swinging it over the rear seat, not an issue, and no reason to get a step-through frame for that.
Also, typically, step-through frames are available in one-size-fits-all or medium/small sizes, but not large sizes, so, depending on circumstances, might be hard to work that.
Can you get one of those racks that holds a bike vertical for storage so you can fit two in your apartment?
Would a bike trailer be a possibility?
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You said that the bike is CF/Ti. Is the seat TUBE (not the seat post) titanium and round? If it is then I would consider using something like the models made by Romer - these are very common in Northern Europe (it's a German brand), but I don't know if they are readily available in N. America. They have one piece that clamps to the seat tube and stays there, and then the seat assembly easily clips into and out of that. However, if the seat tube is CF or is Ti but not round, then I wouldn't recommend it. Also on a race bike, there may not be enough room between the seat tube and the rear tire for this option.

The only other option that I would consider with this bike is a trailer, and if you don't want to go that route then a different bike would be needed. There are some reasonably versatile cyclocross bikes available (but many of those are made more for racing than versatility, so choose carefully). A CX bike wouldn't feel too different from a pure road bike once the kid seat is removed and you put racing tires on it, so would be the best all-round option; a drop-bar touring bike could also work and might be a bit more stable with the kid on board, but would be a bit slower handling and heavier than the CX when riding without the kid.

I ride tandems and loaded touring bikes all the time, so frequently have to use the leg-over-the-top-tube method of mounting the bike, and don't find this to be a problem at all wife regular diamond frames, so I wouldn't agree with the above advise that a step-thru frame is a good idea, because they are EXTREMELY flexy and heavy due to the lack of strength that the double triangles give.

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Even if you got it working with a baby seat on your carbon or Ti bike, you wouldn't like the way the system rides. Get a more laid back bike. It could be a folding bike that fits in a closet. Or if it's pedestrian enough (like a Raleigh Sports), you can leave it outside at night which thousands of people do here in my neighborhood (the West Village). We have a high rate of bike penetration here, for NYC.
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In regards to space savings , a Brompton and one of these will do nicely, I suspect.

http://www.milianparts.com/en/products/pere/

and being very adjustable, the bike can be shared..
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In regards to space savings , a Brompton and one of these will do nicely, I suspect.

http://www.milianparts.com/en/products/pere/

and being very adjustable, the bike can be shared..
As a mom of a baby and a toddler, my experience: avoid trailers for urban environment, impossible to use the it chair until two + years old, best solution a folder with a yepp or hamax seat. Mine a dahon speed tr + yepp, perfect match for a mountain town where I live. If I lived in nyc maybe a cheaper combo would fit: any dahon 20" plus a traveler rack plus a seat like hamax, you can fit this under a table for example or in the entrance corridor.
Avoid exhausting your child with an uncomfortable seat unless you plan to ride very short. They usually get asleep when you pick them up from school or in sunny long rides they take a nap.
front yepp seat very small you'll need to upgrade as soon as he/she is 18 months, regular kids size presumed.
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did you spot the other one, there, http://www.milianparts.com/en/products/bryan/

It is a specialty mount for this child seat, http://www.milianparts.com/en/store/...12&id=11429177
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good spot but short life span

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did you spot the other one, there, http://www.milianparts.com/en/products/bryan/

It is a specialty mount for this child seat, http://www.milianparts.com/en/store/...12&id=11429177
Excellent solution... for a very light kid and /or for a short life span: my two where +-12 kg at their first year, so if his baby is an year old now this solution will last him only for a couple of months. As a very minded-budget rider, I prefer a complete upgradable solution wich may last for years. A Dahon ( I name dahon because I know it, but it could be almost any folding 20") plus a traveler rack is useful for carrying a one year old.. a three years old...a five years old... and an 8/10 years old in a plain seat... until they are able to ride along with you their own bikes.

And in 8/10 years (or many more, if you have more kids) you only bought 1 bike and 1 rack and 2 seats.

If he buys the brompton/bobike combo he will have the same trouble he has now but in three months. Unless he has a new baby coming it's late for this. (And then he has to think about carrying the two kids...not very realistc for day to day rides in a brompton).

The trailer solution for a city or a urban with "normal" car drivers is crazy for me, I'd never, ever, carry my kids there. Only in dedicated paths with no car road sharing at ANY point. And he living in an apartment seems to have to face cars just out of his door.
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Im 66 and never had any, (future conscript soldiers) , just offering suggestions ,

in places like Amsterdam its not unusual to se mothers
with 2 or 3 children on their bikes ,... and this was before

Bakfiets became so popular .. you might consider one of those

feature" A big box in front, so the wee ones are under your gaze

helmets and car seat mounting can be done..
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Im 66 and never had any, (future conscript soldiers) , just offering suggestions ,

in places like Amsterdam its not unusual to se mothers
with 2 or 3 children on their bikes ,... and this was before

Bakfiets became so popular .. you might consider one of those

feature" A big box in front, so the wee ones are under your gaze

helmets and car seat mounting can be done..
Ah! But he nor me live in Amsterdam, and car drivers are mainly brainless or blind, at least here, and many times they want to show off how powerful are against a poor bike.

A Bakfiet is a good solution (somekind of overpriced nowadays, don't know why) for somebody who has a parking spot for it and in a non hilly town, not his life scenario nor mine. My mother rided with me and my brother in a 24" folder (many many years ago, folders were very popular, my first bike was a folder and my second one too), one kid in the rear rack, other kid in the front rack, with our school bags as cushions and no helmets nor seat belts. But we were at least 4 years old each and could hold ourselves.

Somebody should design an attachable/detachable front box for carrying kids/dogs/loads with any bike. I'b be a concious beta tester for free
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the Bulitt I understand is Made in Taiwan , because they have the big heat treatment ovens
for neutralizing the welding stressess . .. of its aluminum structure ..


I think a detachable scheme is out there but from a european maker, though .. Gazelle
or one of those. ... . 2 wheels in Front.. but integrated rather than 'any bike'..


only at the salvation army is there a Free Lunch, if you sit thru the sermon

yea, I hear the Spanish Economy is less than roaring, Now.


Santander and Basque parts doing any better than Madrid?

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the Bulitt I understand is Made in Taiwan , because they have the big heat treatment ovens
for neutralizing the welding stressess . .. of its aluminum structure ..


I think a detachable scheme is out there but from a european maker, though .. Gazelle
or one of those. ... . 2 wheels in Front.. but integrated rather than 'any bike'..


only at the salvation army is there a Free Lunch, if you sit thru the sermon

yea, I hear the Spanish Economy is less than roaring, Now.


Santander and Basque parts doing any better than Madrid?
You're going the easy way, I was thinking about a "add or take to your existing bike and convert it to a front cargo one" design.

And no, I'm not complaining about prices of high value assets, only I see some bicycle products are overpriced compared to their history (the "cool factor"?) and sometimes you have to consider the "how many times I will ride this bike" before buying, like the brompton/bobike combo.

And yes, here the economy... is sliding down with no finishing line at see. The final of the crisis is a myth in which people want to believe, as a faith act, not facts.
The Basque pays was better positioned before the brick crash and has better resources... for the elder generations. Young people there maybe have an advantage for their education (more resources invested in them) but poor chances to make a life on their own. So, for a retired banker Santander is almost paradise now (cheaper prices everywhere) and for a young professional a hell of no future. You can see what happened to Fagor and Mondragon recently. Not to say other smaller manufacturers.

But, as I'm not spanish born not raised, I more than trained on economic hurricanes and I always can listen to any sermon if a team of engeneers work for my desires. I have a list of "design AND construction wanted", if you are interested.

Excuse me, I completely off topic this thread.

But all about the economic planification (and special for a growing family) is a good reason to be very well biking equiped: duration and realiability of components, easy replacement of spare parts, free to park at an small house or apartment.
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I vaguely remember a conversion kit {no Links] to put a 2 l kit in place of a regular fork out of UK.

and of cours the Christiania trikes , but the HTA is 90 degree.. behind the box ..


far from the light weight traffic snake ..

thanks for the local observer.. info..

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You can see what happened to Fagor and Mondragon recently. Not to say other smaller manufacturers
not a peep filters thru the advertising with a thin slice of content press , here ..

do say. {it can go off list.. ) PM (probably verging into the Politics and religion section,here.. (P&R it's own Zoo)

any company that needs other people to have a decent job to buy their stuff
is in trouble when the Austerity plans prescribe the opposite cure.

RE: bikes Burly Designs a employee owned/managed CoOp in Eugene was driven into a ditch some how
and now, private, offshores production like everone else ..

Orbea has bike manufacturing contracts in Asia too, or so I .. understand.


sorry cant send a 3d printout of just what you want ..

sounds like the trade show in Vegas is bristling with that sort of stuff.. 3d printers not kid-bus-bikes

.. FWIW I do use My Brompton Often, even here , park inside the PO, to mail stiff
and then it parks under the Juke box* while I have a few pints .

*web connected they hang on the wall .. room underneath..

which is next on my to do list Prost!

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Add a link for the purposes of the thread ..
Front http://clevercycles.com/accessories/...rs/front-mount.

rear http://clevercycles.com/accessories/...ers/rear-mount

still say the OP 1st one, wanting to put a child seat on his carbon fiber race bike
is not going to be able to , other than N+1 on a different bike..

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