Big Dummy vs. Yuba Mundo frame sets
10-07-14, 09:38 AM
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Big Dummy vs. Yuba Mundo frame sets
A Big Dummy frame set retails for $950 where as a Yuba Mundo frame set retails for $550. Is the Big Dummy frame really that much better? What are you paying for besides name, marketing, etc?
10-07-14, 12:04 PM
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I've been riding (and loving) my Big Dummy for several years. Last year a friend of mine was looking to get a long tail cargo bike and asked the exact same question. Neither of us had seen a Yuba in person (nobody carries them in Hawaii), so I told her the things I read online that swayed me to pick the Big Dummy: frame weight, quality of components, frame geometry, frame material. In all aspects the big dummy is way ahead. In the end, price won out and my friend got the Yuba. She has been riding it for a year, and I can tell you that is is a fine bike - but the big dummy is much better. The yuba is HEAVY, and the front fork is nowhere near as strong as the Big Dummy. You don't notice it hauling kids or light loads - but throw an adult on the back and the fork flex will freak you out. Same goes for the brakes - the Yuba does not have disk brakes, and stopping can be terrifying with big loads. The components are cheap, and will need a lot of attention to keep them running smoothly. That said, if you are hauling light children on short trips, the yuba should be fine. I do feel that even though it is more expensive, the Big Dummy is a better value when you consider quality and long-term use.
10-07-14, 01:00 PM
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I agree with much of what Vantiki says about the Big Dummy pros, but wanted to point out that the Mundo frame is disc-ready and if you're building from the frame up, you can choose your components to be as high-quality as you please. As for the price difference, I attribute part of that to the QBP tax. So many of their bikes are 10-20% more expensive than they should be (IMHO). Not sure what your end use will be, but have you considered the Edgerunner? I don't know if they still offer it in frameset only, but it's the best longtail money can buy in my book, assuming general cargo bike duties.
10-07-14, 01:58 PM
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I find that the dummy is sportier, like a mountain bike and the Mundo is more like a city bike. I have ridden a Yuba with an (total 250lbs) adult and a child on the back, and it was very comfortable, but the upright position is clearly designed for those who like to take their time.
Since the V3 Yuba frames, the Yuba is lighter than the Surly. I have not witnessed the flexing noted above and the one I have ridden extensively had disk brakes that were reasonably effective. I would rate the Yuba better for carrying heavy loads and the Surly better for general use.
In short, if you are a mountain biker, you will want the Big Dummy.
Since the V3 Yuba frames, the Yuba is lighter than the Surly. I have not witnessed the flexing noted above and the one I have ridden extensively had disk brakes that were reasonably effective. I would rate the Yuba better for carrying heavy loads and the Surly better for general use.
In short, if you are a mountain biker, you will want the Big Dummy.
10-07-14, 02:09 PM
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One big plus I'd put in the Mundo's corner is the Bread Basket. So much focus goes to the rear cargo on these bikes, but I really appreciate the front cargo that you can handle with the frame supported basket up there. The new Edgerunners will have a similar frame mounted rack system too.
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I've been riding (and loving) my Big Dummy for several years. Last year a friend of mine was looking to get a long tail cargo bike and asked the exact same question. Neither of us had seen a Yuba in person (nobody carries them in Hawaii), so I told her the things I read online that swayed me to pick the Big Dummy: frame weight, quality of components, frame geometry, frame material. In all aspects the big dummy is way ahead. In the end, price won out and my friend got the Yuba. She has been riding it for a year, and I can tell you that is is a fine bike - but the big dummy is much better. The yuba is HEAVY, and the front fork is nowhere near as strong as the Big Dummy. You don't notice it hauling kids or light loads - but throw an adult on the back and the fork flex will freak you out. Same goes for the brakes - the Yuba does not have disk brakes, and stopping can be terrifying with big loads. The components are cheap, and will need a lot of attention to keep them running smoothly. That said, if you are hauling light children on short trips, the yuba should be fine. I do feel that even though it is more expensive, the Big Dummy is a better value when you consider quality and long-term use.
10-08-14, 06:01 PM
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One thing I like about the BD is that the rear is built to the xtracycle dimensions, if I'm not mistaken. That means all the xtracycle accessories should fit. There is not one dominant standard in the longtail cargo bike world, but the closest thing to one is xtracycle. So a bike with those dimensions out back would be a plus to me.
It's super easy to remove/replace the wideloaders, etc, on an xtracycle. Takes seconds.
I agree with what a poster said above. The BD is probably a better bike more of the time. If you are hauling ultra heavy loads the majority of the time, I give the Mundo the nod.
Since you're building either bike with equivalent components, the end result price will only basically be the difference in frame cost up front. So is a complete BD worth $400 more than a complete Mundo? Yes, I'd say so. You're basically paying half the difference in what the bikes cost new, complete. A bargain if you build yourself and only have a $400 difference.
The Edgerunners look appealing to me. I don't know what a frame costs, assuming you can buy just a frame.
I don't necessarily buy bikes for resale value, but it is one small factor to think about. Selling a BD later would probably be a piece of cake, and you'd likely get good coin for it. I think you'd have a more limited audience for a Mundo and hence get less out of it later and have less people responding to your CL ad. But just my off the cuff opinion there, have not done the research to be sure. I think a BD build would be more desirable in my neck of the woods, anyway.
It's super easy to remove/replace the wideloaders, etc, on an xtracycle. Takes seconds.
I agree with what a poster said above. The BD is probably a better bike more of the time. If you are hauling ultra heavy loads the majority of the time, I give the Mundo the nod.
Since you're building either bike with equivalent components, the end result price will only basically be the difference in frame cost up front. So is a complete BD worth $400 more than a complete Mundo? Yes, I'd say so. You're basically paying half the difference in what the bikes cost new, complete. A bargain if you build yourself and only have a $400 difference.
The Edgerunners look appealing to me. I don't know what a frame costs, assuming you can buy just a frame.
I don't necessarily buy bikes for resale value, but it is one small factor to think about. Selling a BD later would probably be a piece of cake, and you'd likely get good coin for it. I think you'd have a more limited audience for a Mundo and hence get less out of it later and have less people responding to your CL ad. But just my off the cuff opinion there, have not done the research to be sure. I think a BD build would be more desirable in my neck of the woods, anyway.
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One thing I like about the BD is that the rear is built to the xtracycle dimensions, if I'm not mistaken. That means all the xtracycle accessories should fit. There is not one dominant standard in the longtail cargo bike world, but the closest thing to one is xtracycle. So a bike with those dimensions out back would be a plus to me.
It's super easy to remove/replace the wideloaders, etc, on an xtracycle. Takes seconds.
I agree with what a poster said above. The BD is probably a better bike more of the time. If you are hauling ultra heavy loads the majority of the time, I give the Mundo the nod.
Since you're building either bike with equivalent components, the end result price will only basically be the difference in frame cost up front. So is a complete BD worth $400 more than a complete Mundo? Yes, I'd say so. You're basically paying half the difference in what the bikes cost new, complete. A bargain if you build yourself and only have a $400 difference.
The Edgerunners look appealing to me. I don't know what a frame costs, assuming you can buy just a frame.
I don't necessarily buy bikes for resale value, but it is one small factor to think about. Selling a BD later would probably be a piece of cake, and you'd likely get good coin for it. I think you'd have a more limited audience for a Mundo and hence get less out of it later and have less people responding to your CL ad. But just my off the cuff opinion there, have not done the research to be sure. I think a BD build would be more desirable in my neck of the woods, anyway.
It's super easy to remove/replace the wideloaders, etc, on an xtracycle. Takes seconds.
I agree with what a poster said above. The BD is probably a better bike more of the time. If you are hauling ultra heavy loads the majority of the time, I give the Mundo the nod.
Since you're building either bike with equivalent components, the end result price will only basically be the difference in frame cost up front. So is a complete BD worth $400 more than a complete Mundo? Yes, I'd say so. You're basically paying half the difference in what the bikes cost new, complete. A bargain if you build yourself and only have a $400 difference.
The Edgerunners look appealing to me. I don't know what a frame costs, assuming you can buy just a frame.
I don't necessarily buy bikes for resale value, but it is one small factor to think about. Selling a BD later would probably be a piece of cake, and you'd likely get good coin for it. I think you'd have a more limited audience for a Mundo and hence get less out of it later and have less people responding to your CL ad. But just my off the cuff opinion there, have not done the research to be sure. I think a BD build would be more desirable in my neck of the woods, anyway.
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Thanks for this assessment. I looked around and saw somewhere selling the frame only for $900 (same as the Big Dummy). The Edgerunner looks very appealing to me! Honestly, I hated when Surly changed all of their bike designs to have the stupid top tube brace in ~2012. I loved the old Big Dummy Frame with the curved top tube. I'm wondering how the 20" rear wheel on the Edge Runner would fare - stronger, lower center of gravity, but not as good over bumps?
I have not ridden an edgerunner to give an opinion about it, but it looks like a good longtail option.
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Thanks for this assessment. I looked around and saw somewhere selling the frame only for $900 (same as the Big Dummy). The Edgerunner looks very appealing to me! Honestly, I hated when Surly changed all of their bike designs to have the stupid top tube brace in ~2012. I loved the old Big Dummy Frame with the curved top tube. I'm wondering how the 20" rear wheel on the Edge Runner would fare - stronger, lower center of gravity, but not as good over bumps?
I do not know if the frame is stronger on the BD or ER, but the lower center of gravity with the 20" wheel has got to help, especially on starting up. Once you are moving at speed it probably has less affect. MSRP on the ER is about $1,500*. Your local dealer may be able to drop that a tad.?. That comes with disks and has decent quality components. I usually go with higher end stuff on my bikes, but have found these to operate flawlessly thus far. In other words, I don't think an extra $600 to the upgraded ER is worth it.
If you add bags that is more $$.
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Pondering on an Xtracycle Edgerunner, with a Stoke Monkey Kit ... already have a 20" R'off wheel, they're super rugged in that size rim. .
putting a crossover tandem road crank a chain tensioner
and a 39-53 chainset would give a low climbing ratio , range and a Higher crusing the flat lands range too .
got a 4 mile long bridge across the Columbia north with a steep corkscrew approach to get over the shipping channel on this end.
and the Moved the Costco 7 miles away.. in the other direction West.
putting a crossover tandem road crank a chain tensioner
and a 39-53 chainset would give a low climbing ratio , range and a Higher crusing the flat lands range too .
got a 4 mile long bridge across the Columbia north with a steep corkscrew approach to get over the shipping channel on this end.
and the Moved the Costco 7 miles away.. in the other direction West.
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Pondering on an Xtracycle Edgerunner, with a Stoke Monkey Kit ... already have a 20" R'off wheel, they're super rugged in that size rim. .
putting a crossover tandem road crank a chain tensioner
and a 39-53 chainset would give a low climbing ratio , range and a Higher crusing the flat lands range too .
got a 4 mile long bridge across the Columbia north with a steep corkscrew approach to get over the shipping channel on this end.
and the Moved the Costco 7 miles away.. in the other direction West.
putting a crossover tandem road crank a chain tensioner
and a 39-53 chainset would give a low climbing ratio , range and a Higher crusing the flat lands range too .
got a 4 mile long bridge across the Columbia north with a steep corkscrew approach to get over the shipping channel on this end.
and the Moved the Costco 7 miles away.. in the other direction West.
Update on the Xtracycle vs. Big Dummy. I'm probably getting a Big Dummy to add to the heard. On weekends I go out to get on the Xtracycle and one of the 4 other family members has it, and returns near empty on the battery. So, I'm getting a good deal on the BD and will look forward to building that up. I still think the Xtracycle is a better design for hauling, but the Big Dummy should be fine. It'll get the same motor and hub and I will look forward to comparing them.
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An old thread, but thought I'd put in my $0.02. I have had my Big Dummy for a few years now. I love it and the kids love riding on it. While I have no regrets, if I were to buy today, I would go with a Yuba. It's just a better value for the money and does the exact same thing. Plus, the accessories are cheaper as well. The only advantage I see for the BD is the ability to take the rear racks off (for whatever reason you'd want them off...). The Yuba can carry more cargo as well.
Either way, you'll get a nice bike. The Edgerunners look nice as well.
Either way, you'll get a nice bike. The Edgerunners look nice as well.
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01-23-15, 09:37 PM
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Yepp seats are awesome. I know they worked it out with Xtracycle so the new flight deck has really low-profile direct mounting. Not sure how the mounting system is for the BD. Another accessory to consider is the Hooptie.
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The BD deck will work with the Yepp adapter, so no issues there. If you want to mount it directly to the deck, you'll need to buy the Xtracycle Flightdeck.
I've just got the adapter on mine and it works well.
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Has anyone seen the Yuba Boda Boda? It's the sexiest thing I've seen on two wheels but I really want my "big" cargo bike to be steel. I've been "on again off again" thinking about one for almost a year but I can't get over my love of Surly. 
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This is an old thread, but as I have ridden all three bike frames I thought that I would chime in with my impressions, in order of preference:
Big Dummy: the only one I have owned. Feels heavy vs a "normal" bike, but of the 3 frames felt the most like a "normal" bike to me. Feels quality, and is compatible with the xtracycle parts. Does have good resale - I sold a frame on CL without much trouble.
Yuba: felt like a bike heavy tank of a bike. Made me feel like I was a kid trying to ride a too heavy too bike frame. However, the breadbasket is a selling point if your haul kids as they make using saddle bag space more challenging for mid ride access to stuff.
Xtracycle: I liked it until I rode it. I felt like the frame was a bit flexy noodley feeling. I rode it around town and I could literally feel every time my kids moved or looked off to the side as we rode through intersections. This could be that the yepp seat puts the weight up high and that multiplies the feeling of the movement. When I was doing research into cargo bikes I remember reading that the xtracycle rack parts must be trimmed down to lower the deck for the 20" wheel - all the racks are made to fit over a 26" wheel so if you want benefit of the smaller wheel you have to cut the rack supports.
So, I liked the dummy the best but due to it being more $$ I was open to whichever I could find a deal on. Luck was with me and I found a dummy on CL with a nice build and bought it. Liked it but found it to easy to dump over (3 times in 2 months) - I am not a small person, but the physics of a long tail puts the weight in a spot where if the bike starts to go over you can't stop it. I found myself becoming a less confident rider on it and my kids were scared. I was worried about what was going to happen as the kids got bigger (heavier). I went back to looking and tried bakfiets style bikes...and now have a cetma. Love the cetma. Still clearly feels like riding a SUV when loaded with 3 kids, but I have only become more confident as a rider. 9 months of riding in all weather and I have never dumped it, but I have thought to myself many times "if I had been on the dummy just now we would be on the ground".
I agree with the e-assist for hilly areas. I ride with a stoke monkey and know that I might be a stronger rider without it, but I would also be a less frequent rider with the hills in my neighborhood. I also want to shout out for Internal hub gears - changing gears at a stop has been a wonder for us - sometimes with the kids and traffic and everything thinking about gears coming to a stop just doesn't happen for me like it should.
Cheers to all cargo bikes, in any shape. As long as the bike makes you confident to do your tasks you have the right bike.
Big Dummy: the only one I have owned. Feels heavy vs a "normal" bike, but of the 3 frames felt the most like a "normal" bike to me. Feels quality, and is compatible with the xtracycle parts. Does have good resale - I sold a frame on CL without much trouble.
Yuba: felt like a bike heavy tank of a bike. Made me feel like I was a kid trying to ride a too heavy too bike frame. However, the breadbasket is a selling point if your haul kids as they make using saddle bag space more challenging for mid ride access to stuff.
Xtracycle: I liked it until I rode it. I felt like the frame was a bit flexy noodley feeling. I rode it around town and I could literally feel every time my kids moved or looked off to the side as we rode through intersections. This could be that the yepp seat puts the weight up high and that multiplies the feeling of the movement. When I was doing research into cargo bikes I remember reading that the xtracycle rack parts must be trimmed down to lower the deck for the 20" wheel - all the racks are made to fit over a 26" wheel so if you want benefit of the smaller wheel you have to cut the rack supports.
So, I liked the dummy the best but due to it being more $$ I was open to whichever I could find a deal on. Luck was with me and I found a dummy on CL with a nice build and bought it. Liked it but found it to easy to dump over (3 times in 2 months) - I am not a small person, but the physics of a long tail puts the weight in a spot where if the bike starts to go over you can't stop it. I found myself becoming a less confident rider on it and my kids were scared. I was worried about what was going to happen as the kids got bigger (heavier). I went back to looking and tried bakfiets style bikes...and now have a cetma. Love the cetma. Still clearly feels like riding a SUV when loaded with 3 kids, but I have only become more confident as a rider. 9 months of riding in all weather and I have never dumped it, but I have thought to myself many times "if I had been on the dummy just now we would be on the ground".
I agree with the e-assist for hilly areas. I ride with a stoke monkey and know that I might be a stronger rider without it, but I would also be a less frequent rider with the hills in my neighborhood. I also want to shout out for Internal hub gears - changing gears at a stop has been a wonder for us - sometimes with the kids and traffic and everything thinking about gears coming to a stop just doesn't happen for me like it should.
Cheers to all cargo bikes, in any shape. As long as the bike makes you confident to do your tasks you have the right bike.
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This is an old thread, but as I have ridden all three bike frames I thought that I would chime in with my impressions, in order of preference:
Big Dummy: the only one I have owned. Feels heavy vs a "normal" bike, but of the 3 frames felt the most like a "normal" bike to me. Feels quality, and is compatible with the xtracycle parts. Does have good resale - I sold a frame on CL without much trouble.
Yuba: felt like a bike heavy tank of a bike. Made me feel like I was a kid trying to ride a too heavy too bike frame. However, the breadbasket is a selling point if your haul kids as they make using saddle bag space more challenging for mid ride access to stuff.
Xtracycle: I liked it until I rode it. I felt like the frame was a bit flexy noodley feeling. I rode it around town and I could literally feel every time my kids moved or looked off to the side as we rode through intersections. This could be that the yepp seat puts the weight up high and that multiplies the feeling of the movement. When I was doing research into cargo bikes I remember reading that the xtracycle rack parts must be trimmed down to lower the deck for the 20" wheel - all the racks are made to fit over a 26" wheel so if you want benefit of the smaller wheel you have to cut the rack supports.
So, I liked the dummy the best but due to it being more $$ I was open to whichever I could find a deal on. Luck was with me and I found a dummy on CL with a nice build and bought it. Liked it but found it to easy to dump over (3 times in 2 months) - I am not a small person, but the physics of a long tail puts the weight in a spot where if the bike starts to go over you can't stop it. I found myself becoming a less confident rider on it and my kids were scared. I was worried about what was going to happen as the kids got bigger (heavier). I went back to looking and tried bakfiets style bikes...and now have a cetma. Love the cetma. Still clearly feels like riding a SUV when loaded with 3 kids, but I have only become more confident as a rider. 9 months of riding in all weather and I have never dumped it, but I have thought to myself many times "if I had been on the dummy just now we would be on the ground".
I agree with the e-assist for hilly areas. I ride with a stoke monkey and know that I might be a stronger rider without it, but I would also be a less frequent rider with the hills in my neighborhood. I also want to shout out for Internal hub gears - changing gears at a stop has been a wonder for us - sometimes with the kids and traffic and everything thinking about gears coming to a stop just doesn't happen for me like it should.
Cheers to all cargo bikes, in any shape. As long as the bike makes you confident to do your tasks you have the right bike.
Big Dummy: the only one I have owned. Feels heavy vs a "normal" bike, but of the 3 frames felt the most like a "normal" bike to me. Feels quality, and is compatible with the xtracycle parts. Does have good resale - I sold a frame on CL without much trouble.
Yuba: felt like a bike heavy tank of a bike. Made me feel like I was a kid trying to ride a too heavy too bike frame. However, the breadbasket is a selling point if your haul kids as they make using saddle bag space more challenging for mid ride access to stuff.
Xtracycle: I liked it until I rode it. I felt like the frame was a bit flexy noodley feeling. I rode it around town and I could literally feel every time my kids moved or looked off to the side as we rode through intersections. This could be that the yepp seat puts the weight up high and that multiplies the feeling of the movement. When I was doing research into cargo bikes I remember reading that the xtracycle rack parts must be trimmed down to lower the deck for the 20" wheel - all the racks are made to fit over a 26" wheel so if you want benefit of the smaller wheel you have to cut the rack supports.
So, I liked the dummy the best but due to it being more $$ I was open to whichever I could find a deal on. Luck was with me and I found a dummy on CL with a nice build and bought it. Liked it but found it to easy to dump over (3 times in 2 months) - I am not a small person, but the physics of a long tail puts the weight in a spot where if the bike starts to go over you can't stop it. I found myself becoming a less confident rider on it and my kids were scared. I was worried about what was going to happen as the kids got bigger (heavier). I went back to looking and tried bakfiets style bikes...and now have a cetma. Love the cetma. Still clearly feels like riding a SUV when loaded with 3 kids, but I have only become more confident as a rider. 9 months of riding in all weather and I have never dumped it, but I have thought to myself many times "if I had been on the dummy just now we would be on the ground".
I agree with the e-assist for hilly areas. I ride with a stoke monkey and know that I might be a stronger rider without it, but I would also be a less frequent rider with the hills in my neighborhood. I also want to shout out for Internal hub gears - changing gears at a stop has been a wonder for us - sometimes with the kids and traffic and everything thinking about gears coming to a stop just doesn't happen for me like it should.
Cheers to all cargo bikes, in any shape. As long as the bike makes you confident to do your tasks you have the right bike.
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I haven't ridden any of these bikes, but there is a fair number of Yuba Mundos in my neighborhood. Some are privately owned, and one person locks his/hers outside 24 hours a day. There is a grocery delivery company that has a whole fleet of these bikes. I've lifted the bike, and it feels like it's about 50 lbs. That seems reasonable for a bike of this type. Basically, I like it, and if I could think of a reason I need one, I would buy it. But I don't do that kind of riding.
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03-12-15, 07:33 PM
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The Mundo rides a lot better than people think. It is a heavy frame but if you put on some good wheels, tires and saddle, you can roll comfortably, at a good clip, for surprisingly long distances.
I have had a bunch of bikes but the Mundo I consider irreplaceable. Love it.
I have had a bunch of bikes but the Mundo I consider irreplaceable. Love it.
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03-15-15, 11:24 AM
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New XtraCycle uses a 406 20" rear wheel EdgeRunner 24D - Xtracycle lowers load C Of G and uses a stronger smaller wheel.
Bike Friday Haul-a-Day builds one with 2 20" Wheels, Now. https://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/haul-a-day_basics
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03-15-15, 05:20 PM
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@owenfinn, great picture. I'm glad you like yours so much. I want a reason to love a bike vicariously.
How do store it? I'm under the impression that space is tight in Japanese cities. I also hear you're not supposed to lock up bikes outside.
How do store it? I'm under the impression that space is tight in Japanese cities. I also hear you're not supposed to lock up bikes outside.
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03-15-15, 05:21 PM
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New XtraCycle uses a 406 20" rear wheel EdgeRunner 24D - Xtracycle lowers load C Of G and uses a stronger smaller wheel.
Bike Friday Haul-a-Day builds one with 2 20" Wheels, Now. https://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/haul-a-day_basics
Bike Friday Haul-a-Day builds one with 2 20" Wheels, Now. https://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/haul-a-day_basics
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