Thank you for the subforum
03-17-07, 02:33 PM
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Thank you for the subforum
Thanks to the moderators and Joe for creating this subforum. I truly believe it will make its parent A&S forum a much better resource for all. My hat is off to you all. 
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03-17-07, 02:48 PM
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Yes, Forester-inspired VC lunacy deserves to have it's own subforum. Cyclists like myself who have been riding according to the rules of the road for decades don't care to be associated with the ideology of the Forester-worshiping VC zealots.
03-17-07, 07:05 PM
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Thanks man.
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Hooray! Now if we could just come to an agreement whereby certain VC people would stay out of car-free in exchange for certain car-free people staying out of this new subforum, this board would be perfect 
03-17-07, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by brokenrobot
Hooray! Now if we could just come to an agreement whereby certain VC people would stay out of car-free in exchange for certain car-free people staying out of this new subforum, this board would be perfect
03-17-07, 11:03 PM
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thanks!
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this will keep the more general A & S forum available for more forward thinking topics and discussion. But I'm gonna wait and see- I've been fooled before.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this will keep the more general A & S forum available for more forward thinking topics and discussion. But I'm gonna wait and see- I've been fooled before.
03-18-07, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JRA
Yes, Forester-inspired VC lunacy deserves to have it's own subforum. Cyclists like myself who have been riding according to the rules of the road for decades don't care to be associated with the ideology of the Forester-worshiping VC zealots.
there will be no problems.Seriously, that is the key. If the Anti-VC'ers want the pro- and anti-VC debate to stay out of regular A&S forums, the anti-VC'ers will have to start showing some restraint in regular A&S threads.
If the anti-VC'ers use regular A&S threads to call ideas they disagree with "lunacy," or falsely accuse people of "worshiping" someone whom they have criticized, they can expect a response. If they support anti-VC positions (striped bike lanes on 25 mph downtown streets, the wholesale adoption of "Complete Streets," etc.), they likewise invite a response from a variety of perspectives.
Finally, name one person in this forum who "worships" Forester. I haven't seen anyone who has uncritically supported him. By contrast, a few of you do seem to "worship" white stripes of paint. (And if this kind of back-and-forth is where you want to take this thread, you're on the way.)
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Last edited by Daily Commute; 03-18-07 at 09:57 AM.
