thought you might be interested in what a chainguard member thinks of bike forum folks; inaccuracies and generalizations abound! He also advises Chainguarders they are "wise" not to visit BF.
"The gist of the current firefight is the assertion that JF, by
> associating with the evil reactionaries of the American Dream
> Coalition, has revealed his pro-sprawl, pro-motoring bias, has
> unforgivably betrayed cyclists, and is forevermore disqualified as a
> "bicycle advocate" (as they would typically say). Any other VC
> proponents daring to pipe up are denounced as John's "acolytes" and
> "minions" and cast into the outer darkness.
> The underlying reality is the usual. They don't want to share the
> roads with motorized traffic (without, at least, magical stripes to
> protect them), they don't want to be told that they should learn
> cycling skills, and they think it's perfectly sensible to construct
> segregated facilities to take them wherever they desire to travel.
> Their attitudes have been reinforced, now, by decades of cultural
> reinforcement, so they are confident in their belief that the
> "Foresterites" are a bunch of noisy but irrelevant dinosaurs whose
> time is long past and who will soon be buried under new MUPs."
> - (name of chainguard poster)