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    All your examples only show one thing: that removing cyclists from the car lanes will give more accidents. However, and that is the important thing: There will be fewer serious accidents. And that is why Danish and Dutch cyclists fare so much better than cyclists in the rest of the world.

    Get over it. After all, admitting that VC speculations about risks are dead wrong is not the end of the world, is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianbrettcooper View Post
    What 'shoulder'? One would think, from your response, that shoulders were ubiquitous. They are not. Besides, the shoulder is not a safe place to cycle.
    As an answer to this "Take the shoulder, if it's of any use at all."? Rather illogical, don't you think?

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