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Old 07-19-07, 12:28 PM   #176
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Joejack, you get my drift exactly. As the Green parties in N.Amer can not copy Green values from Europe, as cyclists here should not aim at Netherlands or any European cyclist solutions. Due to population distribution differences and cost of fuel, Europe is INHERENTLY friendlier to cyclists and cyclist activism and legal has little to do with it and is of minor political interest.

N.America, due to uneven population distribution and cheaper fuel IS A MOTORIST centered society and there is no way in hell that will change. Roads here will remain INHERENTLY non cyclist friendly and cyclists are too puny an issue to even make a dent in that. There are much larger issues to be concerned with. This is why I wish we could get BL advocates to just move to Europe if they need BL. I feel 100% safer and 100% more efficient taking my place in traffic as any other vehicle, with a speed compensation of course. It's not much of a difference from low Horsepower mopeds really. If play cyclists can't handle traffic, they should simply do as their as other play cyclists do, load the bike on the car and get to your play trails without stressing out the rest of the community.

BL are a way of excluding cyclists from traffic, and exclusion is never good.
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Old 07-19-07, 03:37 PM   #177
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N.America, due to uneven population distribution and cheaper fuel IS A MOTORIST centered society and there is no way in hell that will change. Roads here will remain INHERENTLY non cyclist friendly and cyclists are too puny an issue to even make a dent in that. There are much larger issues to be concerned with.
Iím curious, do you have kids, if so what ages?
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Old 07-20-07, 12:45 AM   #178
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I’m curious, do you have kids, if so what ages?
Hmmm, somehow I feel a trap being set here...

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Old 07-20-07, 11:26 AM   #179
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Hmmm, somehow I feel a trap being set here...
Man I just hate it when people see through my diabolical plans.

So how about letting us know where you live?
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Old 07-21-07, 12:44 PM   #180
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Man I just hate it when people see through my diabolical plans.

So how about letting us know where you live?
I'm a citizen of the planet, and I believe that quality of life on the planet can be improved, but I also believe that bandaids aren't going to do it. I think it needs to crash before it can be cleaned up. I have too much experience with 'bandaids eventually coming off'. So I may not be chatting on this site for long, as I get the impression that it was constituted mainly for a certain region. However, I am enjoying this ever so vibrant discussion for the time being. This forum deserves much applause.
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Old 07-21-07, 01:40 PM   #181
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I have too much experience with 'bandaids eventually coming off'. So I may not be chatting on this site for long, as I get the impression that it was constituted mainly for a certain region.
Yeah. We don't serve your kind (*) here.

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Old 07-21-07, 03:19 PM   #182
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Yeah. We don't serve your kind (*) here.

Buh-Bye. Don't get hit by the cyber door on your way out.


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Ah sweetie, I'm not gone yet! It's way instructional, I wouldn't miss it for the world, any part of the world. Saying I belong to one place would be a blaring lie, sorry... Today I'm in Fort Lauderdale, tomorrow I'll be in Whitehorse, my cycle has more air miles than it should, and I nostalgically remember the days my cycle flew instead of a piece of luggage with no extra $, How airlines have changed. I guess there's one earthly benefit to overcrowded plains, each person's ecological footprint is smaller
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Ah sweetie, I'm not gone yet!
There is always the ignore feature.
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I will not put anybody on "ignore", all posts on BF and other forums are fully open to my scrutiny, providing I have time to read them.
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You are correct, it would be nice to have time to read them all. There are plenty of interesting people around here to read This particular ignore was only my second time in... let's see, since 1994. I figure it's not too bad.
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I'm a citizen of the planet, and I believe that quality of life on the planet can be improved, but I also believe that bandaids aren't going to do it. I think it needs to crash before it can be cleaned up. I have too much experience with 'bandaids eventually coming off'. So I may not be chatting on this site for long, as I get the impression that it was constituted mainly for a certain region. However, I am enjoying this ever so vibrant discussion for the time being. This forum deserves much applause.
So, you are going to let the heckling deter you from speaking your mind?

Not good.
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So, you are going to let the heckling deter you from speaking your mind?
Not good.
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