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    totally louche Bekologist's Avatar
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    which streetscape design would encourage more vehicular positioning?

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    two middle sized american cities.

    one city has a complete lack of cycling-specific infrastructure and 200 significant signalized intersections.

    the other city has a smattering of bicycling specific infrastructure on a small percent of streets, less than 5 percent of their roads, on some of the major arterials. they have 200 significant signalized intersections. at 150 of their 200 significant signalized intersections, the city has placed bike boxes of the type that position thru bicyclists to the left of all right turning traffic.


    Which streetscape would encourage greater 'vehicular', destination specific road positioning from cyclists?

    Could bike specific infrastructure at some intersections in a community encourage greater vehicular operation by bicyclists at the remaining intersections ?

    I postulate that bike infrastructure on a minority of streets in a community can do just that: encourage greater vehicular riding and destination positioning by larger percents of bicyclists.
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    I have long held that Baltimore pre Bike Plan was a utopia for the VC ideal, lots of narrow lanes and low speed limit (30-35mph) roads and no bike infrastructure. What we had to show for that was a very low mode share and lots of car/bike crashes at 2-3 times the rate of NYC.

    I will agree that I think treatment at intersections is critical for inducing a more vehicular attitude among cyclists.

    I will note that personally I like pocket lanes over Portland's bike boxes but just about anything can work with enough education and enforcement, even VC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bekologist View Post
    I postulate that bike infrastructure on a minority of streets in a community can do just that: encourage greater vehicular riding and destination positioning by larger percents of bicyclists.
    That would be true for at least this one rider and likely for others. Though we adjust to changing conditions, we are also creatures of habit.
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