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    Quote Originally Posted by Bekologist View Post
    did the task force ever get back to you? I think neutralizing the mandatory use law is best practice wether it is official or simply neglected to be enforced by boise officials, as i've stated.

    what was the shakedown from the safety committee as to your concerns?
    No, they became nonresponsive when I brought up the issues of FRAP and mandatory BL/SP. To be fair, they were in the late stages of vetting their final recommendations with the public at that time, and the task force is no longer active at this point. I will continue to pursue mandatory BL/SP with the Mayor's office and the City Council, and try dangling the LAB carrot, but will not hold my breath. FRAP is a statutory law, and I will continue to address that via our state Cycling/Pedestrian Coordinator's office at the Idaho Department of Transportation.

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    nothing wrong with FRAP as i am sure you understand motorists are also subject to FRAP.
    "Evidence, anecdote and methodology all support planning for roadway bike traffic."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bekologist View Post
    nothing wrong with FRAP as i am sure you understand motorists are also subject to FRAP.
    I agree, there is nothing wrong with the generic FRAP law requiring slower vehicles to stay to the right to make it safer and easier for faster vehicles to pass. I just don't happen to believe that a separate, special version of this law is needed for cyclists only. We've already gone around and around on this one on other threads, so no need to regurgitate all that here. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

    I will point out, however, that you are not aligned with the League of American Bicyclists on this. The LAB opposes cycling-specific FRAP laws, considering them discriminatory and a threat to cyclist equality.

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    Side path laws are unconstitutional as they violate our civil rights to equal access. In my city, streets were paved for bicycling before cars existed, and therefore motorists are the second class vehicles. As it should be. I don't bike on the interstate, don't drive in my downtown.

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    Side path laws are unconstitutional as they violate our civil rights to equal access. In my city, streets were paved for bicycling before cars existed, and therefore motorists are the second class vehicles. As it should be. I don't bike on the interstate, don't drive in my downtown.
    If Transportation Secretary were an elected office, I would vote for you.

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    sidepath laws do not violate your civil rights to equal access (?)

    btw, which constitutional amendment are you referring to?

    Bob Mionske covers this aspect of bicycling law in his book, have you two read it yet? an excellent read.
    Last edited by Bekologist; 10-22-09 at 09:40 AM.
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