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vrkelley 11-07-05 02:06 PM

I think I wear too many articles of clothing on a 40F ride for a non-rainy day. Can you beat this without arriving frozen or overcooked?

Arm warmers
Sock liners
Socks
Rain pants
Polar tech windproof swatch
Microfiber sport top
Microfiber brief (because rain pants don't have a liner)
Dou Fold shirt
Axo Gloves
BMX Helmet
bike shoes

15! What an armload...I practically need a clothes line at my desk! And there's always a chance of dropping a sock or something along the way.

Machka 11-07-05 04:17 PM

At 40F on a non-rainy day, I go with:

helmet
headband (sometimes) - just a small light one
short sleeved jersey
long sleeved jersey
waterproof breathable jacket
cycling gloves
mini gloves - under the cycling gloves
shorts
tights
socks
shoes
nylon booties - my light set of booties

That's 12!

cerewa 11-07-05 07:07 PM

Jeez, if it's 40 degrees and not raining I'll wear one coat (no, not one specifically for cycling) over my regular indoor clothes, add a pair of gloves, and call it good. Heck, that's usually my strategy at 10 degrees too. (that's getting to be mitten territory though.)

Joe Dog 11-07-05 08:37 PM

I would not weat all that. I would go with a wicking top under a windshell, tights, socks (only), my trusty Descente "cold out" gloves and a helmet liner. That's it.

Boudicca 11-07-05 08:42 PM

Shorts, tights, wool socks. full finger gloves, lightweight headband, wool base layer jersey, windblock fleece vest, perhaps a wind shell on top of that. Eight, or maybe nine items if it's really windy. Don't think I forgot anything.

Bekologist 11-07-05 09:11 PM

wow...rain pants, no rain, no thanks.

same temps, no rain...

windproof beanie
leather gloves
wool long sleeve base layer
soft shell jacket
wool tights or knickers
thickish wool socks

6 layers

add one more layer for warmth if necessary, or substitute rain coat for soft shell if it's just pouring out. Casual pants with CKs for work commuting. Thats still 7,

13 is so many I'd lose layers just trying to keep track of everything!!

GreyGoat 11-07-05 09:37 PM

no way around it you are going to generate a lot of heat.. so if you are not chilly when you start.. you will be soaked when you are done... most people tend to overdress until they have learned the hard way..

chephy 11-08-05 07:04 AM

jersey - 1
jacket -1
underwear - 1
pants (not any special cycling pants, regular kind) - 1
socks - 2
shoes of some sort - 2
gloves - 2

So, it's 10 if paired items such as gloves count as two. Doesn't seem like too much of a load - usually I don't forget anything. Oh, except that one time when I didn't put on my.. ahem, never mind! :D

Juha 11-08-05 07:58 AM

40F is like what, +4,5C? You win. :D

If it's my normal commute in those temps, I wear long-sleeved turtleneck wicking underwear (or possibly bike shirts + long-sleeved etc. undershirt), el-cheapo gore imitation outer layer, gloves, socks and shoes.

If it were a longer trip I would also carry a warm fleece jacket to wear in case I have to stop (for break, mechanical problem, view, whatever).

--J

DataJunkie 11-08-05 09:06 AM

You have me beat as well
40 is nice and warm. :p

Skull cap (I'm bald with a shaven head)
Nike Pro Fit base layer
Maybe a T shirt over that
Possibly a burley cycling jacket (depends on the wind)
Tights (almost too warm at this temp)
Cycling shorts
tennis shoes
cotton socks
REI thin gloves

15 minutes into my commute I tend to ditch my gloves and occasionally the hat.

Pampusik 11-08-05 09:31 AM

40F is still shorts weather. I would maybe wear a long sleeved shirt, though.

slvoid 11-08-05 10:14 AM

You need to take your top off.. ehhehhe... by that I mean, just get a jacket.

Currently at 40, I have shorts, leg warmers, wicking shirt, fleece jacket, long fingered gloves, toe covers for my shoes, that's it.

cooker 11-08-05 10:19 AM

I'm a bit overweight, so that adds warmth.

Today (8C, about 46F):

Helmet, no other headgear.
Good shirt for work, second cotton shirt over that, nylon shell over that.
Older cotton slacks. I don't wear my good pants in case of chain contact.
All weather gloves
Cycling shoes. Dress socks.

I keep shoes at the office and brought good pants in my pannier, and those were all I had to change into at work.

At 0C/32F, I wear a lycra earband, a warmer velour layer between shirt and shell, and ski gloves, and I may swap my pedals for platform pedals so I can wear two pairs of socks in roomier shoes. I guess I should get something to wear over my cycling shoes!

recursive 11-08-05 11:13 AM

This morning, 38F:

regular bike shoes
wool socks
boxer briefs
basketball shorts
t shirt
arm warmers
glove liners
helmet

I was very toasty when I arrived.

MichaelW 11-08-05 11:26 AM

At 40F/4C I would use
long sleeved jersey
woolen jumper
winter jacket: windproof with light fleecy lining.
shorts/underwear
leggings/polycotton pants
woollen socks
gloves
neckwarmer.

I dont see the point in using armwarmers underneath a whole bunch of clothing, these are designed for temp adjustment. If you need so wear something the whole ride , use a long sleeved jersey .
I use my rainpants in the dry if it is really cold but they are highly breathable.

vrkelley 11-08-05 01:00 PM

Today at 41F Loosing the armwarmers and adding the fleece tights...I arrived 'cooked' with jacket open and gloves off. Tomorrow, I'll try loosing the top and see if that works.

showerspass jacket 1
duofold thin base shirt 1
Col'lizard tights 1
wicking brief 1
helmet 1
socks 2
sock liner 2
gloves 2 = 11!

vrkelley 11-08-05 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelW

woolen jumper

I dont see the point in using armwarmers underneath a whole bunch of clothing, these are designed for temp adjustment.

What is a woolen jumper? The arm warmers leave your arm pits and back open. Less sweaty.

recursive 11-08-05 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelW
At 40F/4C I would use
long sleeved jersey
woolen jumper
winter jacket: windproof with light fleecy lining.
shorts/underwear
leggings/polycotton pants
woollen socks
gloves
neckwarmer.

I dont see the point in using armwarmers underneath a whole bunch of clothing, these are designed for temp adjustment. If you need so wear something the whole ride , use a long sleeved jersey .
I use my rainpants in the dry if it is really cold but they are highly breathable.

You know you could wear a turtleneck instead of that neck warmer too. Arm warmers work. You can use them for a whole ride. I don't have any long sleeve jerseys. I don't need any. I have arm warmers.

MichaelW 11-08-05 01:35 PM

Woollen jumper is just a regular knitted sweater. I prefer thinner ones. Sleeveless sweaters are also useful for fine tuning the mid-layer insulation. The best wool is probably hollow fibre alpaca.
Neck tubes have an advanatge over turtlenecks in that they can seal the neck of your windproof and you can use them to cover your ears, mouth and nose on freezing days. Mine is about 50cm long and is usually doubled over.

Rich vSB 11-08-05 08:47 PM

My 40F garb:

Helmet
Swix Earmuffs
Lightweight longsleeve crew (Merino!)
Rain Jacket -- breathable with bottom and pit zips open / back vented
bike shorts
Sporthill XC pants
Smartwool socks (lightweight)
Sealskinz socks
Lake sandals
Schoeller WB400 gloves

fruitless 11-09-05 01:41 AM

40f non raining I can almost wear shorts, but probably would wear just bib-tights, a long sleeve jersey and probably my pi zephyr jacket, maybe gloves with fingers, cotton socks no shoe covers. Its November 8 and it was something like -24 this morning, I really miss 40f.

outashape 11-09-05 03:48 AM

40 degrees,
shorts and tights,
wool socks and shoes,
mid-weight long-sleeve fleece jersey and bra,
helmet, sun glasses

If I am commuting and the ride is around 25 miles one way, I sometimes just wear my regular T-shirt and jeans with tennis shoes and helmet. Over about 30 miles, the jeans bug me.

GreyGoat 11-09-05 05:59 AM

40 aint that cold.. the fun begins in the lower 30's and under.. depending on how fast you ride.. and what kind of wind chill you are dealing with.. i

steve_wmn 11-09-05 10:43 AM

At 40F I'd wear my lighter set of tights and shorts or Andiamo cycling undies under them, a long sleeved wicking shirt and a wind jacket. No headgear other than helmet. Normal gloves and no booties. My fingers and ears will be cold for the first 10 minutes or so until I warm up and then after that I'm fine. On a really long ride I might wear wool socks or toe covers. A skull cap and windproof shell mittens will take me down to about 30. Below that I'll start layering under the windbreaker and mittens and go with my heavy tights with a wind stopping laminate in front. I haven't gone below about 10F yet but this winter, for sure!

vrkelley 11-15-05 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreyGoat
40 aint that cold.. the fun begins in the lower 30's and under.. depending on how fast you ride.. and what kind of wind chill you are dealing with.. i

Well when it's 40F, and the speedometer says 25, I guess that makes it about 15F wind chill. There are 2 long decents on the return trip and then a couple of short fast decents.


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