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    Quote Originally Posted by djb View Post
    we have friends where the kids have always been like that, ever since they were little. Theyd be running around in bare feet in october, rest of the kids are all bundled up.
    Good constitution if you're a farmer (Im not kidding)
    There was a little study done where subjects hands were held in a bucket of ice water and the capillary response was measured... Not surprising the Inuit subjects had the fastest response to keep the hands warm after the immediate shock followed by Caucasian. Some of the south asian subjects had no capillary response to cold, i.e. once the capillary narrowed the hand just got colder and colder. So i guess a large part of foot and hand warmth is determined by genetics. Note i'm not saying ALL people of each "race" are going to have the same response to cold.

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    Here....maybe you can see what I wore...three thin poly pro with windproof front, thin polypro underwear with windproof front pants. Warm boots, poggies and a smile. Shot today, 11/24/2011, North Pole, AK.
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    those eyebrows look like minimum -25c weather to me, maybe even more
    guess you are more familiar with farenheit?

    darn chilly in any case!

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    Just did a 7-mile joyride around downtown CR wearing a T-shirt and jeans. 48F out -- feels like I'm cheating somehow.

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    Very close, djb. It was indeed right around -10F to -15F which is right about -25C. As to riding at 48F at this time of year...yeah..not fair at all. I emailed a buddy a pic of me and he returned a pic of him and his wife in bike shirts in Tucson with blue skies. Killed me. I could pretend I love riding in the dead of Winter but truthfully 63F is my all time favorite temp.

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    digibud, ya I used to cross country ski a lot, and for years participated in an event called The Canadian Ski Marathon, a two day ski event, so am used to seeing peoples faces skiing at those temperatures and the eyebrows, moustaches, beards looking pretty gnarly (especially the hard core folks who start at 5am and ski the day with big backpacks with all the stuff to camp out at night)

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    30F ..light wind .....

    feet : 2 pair polartec wool socks, catipillar salvo work boots

    legs ... cotton undies, pardox polyester bottoms, levi's

    upper : sugoi arm warmers , polyester longsleeve turtleneck, patgonia long sleeve poly, rei elements light shell jacket

    head : fleece lined balaclava, and helmet


    hands : army wool glove liners under thick wool fingerless gloves with optional mittens

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    Temps 24 f

    Head- thin skull cap , ski mask

    Core- Nike pro fit t shirt, Adidas climax warm long sleave, north face fleace* jacket

    Hands- light and thin gloves

    Legs- patagonie performance base layer, nike basketball pants

    Feet- wool socks one pair.
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    Temp 13F, with 4F windchill:
    Feet: Smartwool heavy ski socks under Vasque Sundowner boots (Gore-tex lined)
    Legs: Terramar light-weight merino wool long johns below Sporthill winter running pants (with a polarfleece neckwarmer stuffed down the front).
    Chest: Terramar light-weight merino wool base layer below Smartwool medium-weight underlayer, below Timberland fleece-lined wind-proof jacket (with zipped vents).
    Head: Cheap Polypropylene balaclava under road helmet.
    Fingers: Swix "Cross" gloves.

    Note: I lost feeling in my toes after about an hour. I had to do get off and run alongside the bike periodically to warm them up. Need another layer of socks or heavier boots!

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    Anybody tried compression stockings for the calves? I read they can actually improve circulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electrik View Post
    Anybody tried compression stockings for the calves? I read they can actually improve circulation.
    I have bilateral DVTs and I have to wear compression stockings whenever I am going to be on my feet for long periods. I normally don't wear them on the bike, but several years ago I decided to wear them under my Pearl Izumi AmFIB tights when the temps dropped to near 0* and I have been doing so ever since. I would highly recommend them if you have circulation issues or if you just need additional calf protection from the cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthammer View Post
    I have bilateral DVTs and I have to wear compression stockings whenever I am going to be on my feet for long periods. I normally don't wear them on the bike, but several years ago I decided to wear them under my Pearl Izumi AmFIB tights when the temps dropped to near 0* and I have been doing so ever since. I would highly recommend them if you have circulation issues or if you just need additional calf protection from the cold.
    It's not that i've had DVT or poor circulation, it is probably average? I just heard that when doing something like running and walking normally the calves muscles have some sort of mechical pumping effect on the veins and this effect is less while on a bicycle. I know another poster swore by compression socks also, however real compression custom stocking are expensive so maybe i'll try some of the 2xu(?) or other stuff that is supposed to be good for recovery after a ride.

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    . . . yesterday temp .5f I wore everything I own.

    THINKING a painting respirator is the next item on the wish list.
    past zero F the lungs don't like.
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    cyco, when I cross country ski around that temp (0f or -18c) its the same for me, I usually pull a neck up over my face and that helps (you know, a fleece tube you have around your neck, a good one is long enough to be able to pull up over your chin or nose if need be, handy things as they weigh nothing and can be scrunched into a pocket if not needed)

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    -18C this morning, with winds at 40km/h gusting to 60. Supposedly -31 with windchill.

    Just wore a "light" winter coat (fleece lined shell, really) with a light cotton sweater underneath.
    Lobster claw mitts.
    I wear a downhill (Giro Remedy) helmet all winter with ski goggles, but this morning I threw on my Ninjaclava underneath.
    Cheapo poly long underwear, with light "tights" over top.
    First time wearing boots on the bike (Red Wings), with merino wool socks (Wigwam) underneath.

    I was overdressed, but I'm always warm.

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    gotta ask, why are you still using cotton??? Especially in winter conditions, getting chilled by a damp, moist thing up against your skin is what cotton does. Listen, I applaud you getting out there with both the temp and especially the wind chill, but cotton??
    (and yes, I will always take a bit overdressed than under any day of the week)

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    Quote Originally Posted by electrik View Post
    Anybody tried compression stockings for the calves? I read they can actually improve circulation.
    This made me curious as I'm always interested in warmer feet. Looking at the info for compression socks / calve sleeves, another claim is stabilization of the calf muscles.

    Lately my calves have been feeling quite sore, like a mild muscle pull. I think bumpy winter riding may be to blame. I tried a pair of sleeves on at a running store, and my calves immediately felt better. I going to start riding with them to see if helps the soreness go away. If they make my feet warmer too, that would be great.

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    Today was -5C but felt like -11C with the wind chill. This is the coldest day so far this winter (and for giggles tomorrow is forecasted to be +5C). I wore:

    * ski helmet and goggles
    * neoprene and fleece face mask
    * ski gloves
    * light weight hiking shoes and merino wool socks
    * bike shorts, cool weather bike tights and over all of this Sporthill Traverse pants
    * light weight long sleeve polypro shirt, Sporthill zone 3 zipped shirt, Sporthill Symmetry wind jacket

    Overall I was warm and comfy on my ride but if my ride was longer then I'd have frozen toes. Next negative temperature day I'll try adding a thin sock under the merino woolies to help keep my toes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by electrik View Post
    It's not that i've had DVT or poor circulation, it is probably average? I just heard that when doing something like running and walking normally the calves muscles have some sort of mechical pumping effect on the veins and this effect is less while on a bicycle. I know another poster swore by compression socks also, however real compression custom stocking are expensive so maybe i'll try some of the 2xu(?) or other stuff that is supposed to be good for recovery after a ride.
    They absolutely work, and if you get the extra tension type from CVS or Amazon you can save a lot of money over the prescription type, unless you can get your insurance to cover them. They actually feel really good for 6-8 hours, but then they can be too constricting. you will know when to remove them as your feet will begin to feel a bit cool due to lack of arterial pressure.
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    have to say that when I have had tight stuff on my lower legs in cold temps, it makes me feel colder for my feet. It seems to me that it restricts my blood flow, so thats my take and experience with it, I know I wouldnt want compression socks on while riding. just me.

    kinda like warm socks in boots, or even my bike shoes, looser is warmer for me (especially with my shoes and temps of near 0 c )

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    30F for my flat 4mile ride to work and I wore:

    UnderArmour tights, stripey cotton tights, stripey cheapo socks, thin cargo skirt (this is my regular work garb, other than the UA tights)
    Shearling (ugg-type) boots
    Silk shirt, zip-up tech shirt, fleece hoody, cheapo vest
    stretchy knit gloves, fleece hat

    I was overwarm on the way to work, and a tad cold on the way home. I was too tired on the way home to ride fast enough to stay warm. But my hands and feet were toasty, at least. I brought extra gloves and a windbreaker in case it picked up (this is ND, after all!), but didn't need it.

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    27 this morning. Leather/Goretex boots, Wool Socks, Polypro/lycra tights, blue jeans, 4.5oz cotton tee, 6.1 oz longsleeve cotton tee, Marmot Precip shell, Turf King thermal grip gardening gloves, toque.

    Got pretty warm on the way home so I packed the shell and the toque.
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    28 f no wind.

    Head- skullcap, helmet, ski mask

    Base layer- Nike pro fit t shirt, Adidas climawarm long T. legs- padigonie* performance base layer
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    Outer layer- middle layer was outer layer. Same for legs.
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    22F calm, overcast 55 miles on dry pavement in Illinois

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    0C, overcast, light wind made it feel like -3C, no snow anywhere on the ground (!!!). I wore:

    head/neck: ski helmet, clear goggles, fleece neck tube
    torso: medium weight long sleeve undershirt, Sporthill heavy weight sweater, Sporthill Symmetry windproof jacket
    legs: bike shorts, Terry's cool weather tights, Sporthill Traverse pants
    feet: thin pair merino wool socks, medium weight merino wool socks, LL Bean waterproof light weight hikers
    hands: first I wore fleece gloves under fingerless bike gloves but 2 hours into the ride I changed to waterproof ski gloves

    Fun ride and the squirrels are especially roly poly this season -- one that was sitting at the side of the path had an impressive neck roll of fat. Next time I ride in 0C and colder weather I need to wear my winter boots rather than the hiking shoes. My feet were fine but a couple of hours into the ride they began to feel cold.


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