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Old 10-18-06, 09:00 AM   #1
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Nashbar studded tire users...

Nashbar has been out with their studded bike tire for years now. Actually they are made by Kenda and rebadged by Nashbar. Anyway, I've got a set that is going into it's third winter. I keep thinking i oughta get some Nokians but the Nashbar studs still look good and so i figure, what's the point?

I can detect a small amount of wear on one tire, presumably it has spent more time on the back. Other than that the studs look great. I don't know how many miles i have on them, easily less than 1000, probably closer to 500 miles if that.

I only run them in icy conditions and NEVER on dry pavement if I can avoid it. Who else is running these tires? How are you getting along?

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Old 10-18-06, 12:45 PM   #2
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I have only had one Nashbar Studded ATB Tire for one winter season. It was mounted on the rear wheel, so I could save my Nokian 294's for ice filled rides. I still used a 294 on the front for better control.(No need for it last year) I'm thinking about the 106 Nokian this year.

I going to say I put about 300-400 miles last year on the Nashbar tire with hardly any wear. I will take a close up pic tomorrow.

I will add that last winter for me wasn't a real test for the Nashbar tire with above average temps and very little snow. I have no complaints about the Nashbar studded tire.
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Do you find that 294 to be a bit much on the roads? Peter white suggests that it is on his site. I have entertained the thought of putting a Nokian on the front but wonder if that 294 or similar might be overkill?
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I've got the 296's. A bit much on pavement? Of course. But I've got ~600 of 900 miles on my set on pavement. It's not such a bother that I actually swapped wheels regularly (I've two sets).
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I've got the 700x35 Nashbar studded tires and have used them for the last 2 winters. I use them if bad conditions are predicted. My route is mostly well plowed pavement with some side streets that are less well maintained. The studs are definately shorter but still seem to be effective. The Nashbar studs are definately a good value. They are much cheaper than the Nokian's and seem to work well. If you can afford the Nokians and plan to put 1000s of miles on the tires get the Nokians otherwise the Nashbar tires are a good choice.
I wasn't sure I would use studded tires which is why I went with the cheap ones. Because they are so slow on dry roads I still try to avoid using them if possible.
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I have these on my ice bike. I've good luck riding them. However, I only have about 40 miles on them since the snow melts off the road so quickly in the places I've lived.
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Do you find that 294 to be a bit much on the roads? Peter white suggests that it is on his site. I have entertained the thought of putting a Nokian on the front but wonder if that 294 or similar might be overkill?
Yes the 294 is over kill for dry pavement. The one thing I find nice about them are when you encounter a place on the shoulder where you need to climb up ice that is off camber. They may be over kill until the day you need them? I think the 120 extreme would be an option. With it studs on the outside of the tire, Still high in price. http://www.gazzatyres.com/show.php?o...es&instance=21

I have a set of 106 Nokian with my name on the at the LBS. I really need to ride down and pick them up.

I forgot the pic of the nashbar tire I'll have it tomorrow.

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^^^ The reason I run the 294 (with a WXC300 in the front), which are USUALLY overkill is that I figure this: If I am going to suffer the added drag of studs on dry pavement, then I might as well have a bit more drag and gain the ability to ride pretty much wide open in any conditions.

I had the side-studded tires for a while a few years ago, but having a bit less stud drag on the pavement didn't seem to be worth the sort-of-slip, sort-of-grip slower-speed-needed performance on glare ice.

I'll add the discalimer that about 1/3 of my winter route (has now been moved to) an very icy MUP, and the total route is only about 18km one way. If it was further I'd give up some grip for faster rolling and stick to cleared roads.
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Old 10-20-06, 06:08 AM   #9
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I use the 700x35s on my hybrid beater and they not only work well (even on black ice), they show no discernible wear after one season.
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^^^ The reason I run the 294 (with a WXC300 in the front), which are USUALLY overkill is that I figure this: If I am going to suffer the added drag of studs on dry pavement, then I might as well have a bit more drag and gain the ability to ride pretty much wide open in any conditions.

I had the side-studded tires for a while a few years ago, but having a bit less stud drag on the pavement didn't seem to be worth the sort-of-slip, sort-of-grip slower-speed-needed performance on glare ice.
Thats one thing I do recall happening a few times with the nashbar/kenda studded tire a bit of slipping and sliding around until it found its grip. I think It will happen with my new 106 nokians to.Hell it happens with the 294 nokians as well. It all depends on the user riding ability,conditions, and confidence on ice.
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Old 10-21-06, 10:43 PM   #11
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I got a set of the 26x1.95 a couple of years ago and love them. Yes, there is a little extra drag, but the fact that they saved my butt a couple of times is worth it. I ride mainly in town on dry pavement. Yes, there is some wear, but they seem to hold up really well. Its snowing out right now and I think I may have to dust them off sometime real soon!
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I think about getting studded tires, but when the roads are bad, I just use my fat-tired mountain bike with deep tread 2.25" wide tires. I have found that with the wide aggressive tires, there is little need for studded tires.

Oh sure, there are a couple of times on ice I wish I had studded tires, otherwise, for 99% of the ride I don't think I need them. So I wonder if it is worth the extra energy riding on studded tires for the few times I need the traction.
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Old 10-26-06, 09:27 AM   #13
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So I wonder if it is worth the extra energy riding on studded tires for the few times I need the traction.
In icey conditions, it is more than worth it. Losing 1 mph is pretty minimal when compared to slipping and crushing your tailbone.
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In icey conditions, it is more than worth it. Losing 1 mph is pretty minimal when compared to slipping and crushing your tailbone.
Ya ya 'eh. Your perspective changes when you are sliding into traffic.
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I've been looking into getting some snow tires for winter and I was looking at Nashbars studded tires. I could have sworn they had a cheaper version, something like 20 bucks a tire, but I can't find it on their site anymore

I don't need anything special...most of the roads I travel on are plowed right away, and it's all pavement except for a bike trail...which happens to be pavement as well...so I guess it is all pavement
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Nashbar doesn't sell 700c studded tires anymore do they?
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Nashbar Studded Tires on Snowmobile Trails

Has anyone here used these tires on snowmobile trails or on loose groomed conditions like lake crossings? I have a set and am setting up for a long winter event-- are the 1.95's wide enough or do you think I'll want a 2.3 or even bigger tire??

How much rolling resistance do they add on snowmobile trails??

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On clear, dry pavement, is there a slip factor with studded tires? I don't mind going a little slower (or having to work harder to go the same speed), I just don't want to slip around on the studs.
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don't worry about slipping on dry pavement with studded tires... It won't happen.
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don't worry about slipping on dry pavement with studded tires... It won't happen.
cool. thanks.
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don't worry about slipping on dry pavement with studded tires... It won't happen.
I found that the studs seem to really grip asphalt. You don't really slip on concrete but smooth crete does not provide as much traction. Steel manhole covers do cause some slip.
Over all studded tires will provide better grip on the roads, especially in icy or snowy conditions. I find that 1-2" covering the roads has almost no affect on my traction, while the same conditions with slick will have me all over the place.
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I found that the studs seem to really grip asphalt. You don't really slip on concrete but smooth crete does not provide as much traction. Steel manhole covers do cause some slip.
Over all studded tires will provide better grip on the roads, especially in icy or snowy conditions. I find that 1-2" covering the roads has almost no affect on my traction, while the same conditions with slick will have me all over the place.
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True, but traction over steel manhole covers and slippery concrete (especially in winter) will be worse with almost any other tire!
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^^^ Word on the concrete.

I laid my XC bike down leaning a bit too far into a condo parking-garage corner last winter with the Hakkas on.

Regular pavement they're alright.
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