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    Maiden voyage of the new snow bike

    The new 7.2FX on Kenda Klondikes got her first ride to & from work today. Observations:

    The studded Klondikes roll suprisingly well on dry pavement, are plenty grippy on wet pavement, with a light covering of snow, and in a couple of inches of snow & crud accumulated on the shoulders. One the way home I did a few miles on the towpath trail and they performed well there too, both when the snow was loose and when it was packed and rutted with footprints. All in all I the 700x35 Klondikes rolled better and gave me just as much traction as the 26" Nokians I had on my old MTB on dry pavement, wet pavement, pavement with a dusting of snow and on 2" or so of snow & crud built up on the shoulders. In deeper snow on the softer path, I'd still prefer wider tires with lower pressure.

    The flat bars on the Trek defintely made me feel more stable than the drops on the SS it replaced, and having gear choices made climbing much safer. Climbing out of the saddle, as I had to do on the SS, on snowy/icy roads, just plain isn't fun. I never budged from the 38t chainring and the 11-32 cassette gave me all the gear choices I needed, with my butt planted on my B17. I might just scrap the FD and use a single chainring on the front, since the vast majority of my winter commuting is on pavement. But then again, I might come to like that 28t granny ring in deep snow.

    Bottom line - I think I like this hybrid better than either my old MTB or the SS for my commutes on snowy days. The flat bars and gear choices make it better for the climbs and deeper snow than the SS, while it's lighter than the old MTB and the thinner 700c tires roll better in all but deep snow/soft ground.

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    re: the granny ring
    when facing a 25mph headwind going uphill with snow, it is a necessity

    no need to scrap the FD, it doesn't weigh anything anyhow, but you already knew that, so why am I posting....... time to go have a smoke

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    Don't ditch the granny. Deep snow is a little like deep mud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrosseyedCrickt
    re: the granny ring
    when facing a 25mph headwind going uphill with snow, it is a necessity

    no need to scrap the FD, it doesn't weigh anything anyhow, but you already knew that, so why am I posting....... time to go have a smoke
    You mean that 100 grams less weight won't make it easier for me to drop the guy in the snow shoes? How about if I lose the dork disk?
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom
    You mean that 100 grams less weight won't make it easier for me to drop the guy in the snow shoes? How about if I lose the dork disk?
    the dork disc maybe
    but you'll still be .000000001w away from 400

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom
    You mean that 100 grams less weight won't make it easier for me to drop the guy in the snow shoes? How about if I lose the dork disk?
    Lose the dork disk, you'll beat 'im on style points.

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    I've been thinking about a Brooks for awhile. Looking at your pic, they are not dorky looking like I imagined they would be. I know they are heavier than normal saddles, so do you notice it at all while commuting? That's a nice bike, and good to know that 700c isn't a penalty to ride in the slop. I, on the other hand, fell off my bike in some deep slush. No studs, and prolly too much air (70psi).
    Every time we let a vehicle pass there is a little bit of compromise. But compromise allows the city to function and allows cyclists to function in the city. The trick is not to eliminate compromise but to learn how to work safely within it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom
    Bottom line - I think I like this hybrid better than either my old MTB or the SS for my commutes on snowy days. The flat bars and gear choices make it better for the climbs and deeper snow than the SS, while it's lighter than the old MTB and the thinner 700c tires roll better in all but deep snow/soft ground.
    i could not agree more with this comment.

    disclaimer: must say that i commute in the city and that my previous winter bike was a super-cheap mountain bike that happened to be just too small for me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by flipped4bikes
    I've been thinking about a Brooks for awhile. Looking at your pic, they are not dorky looking like I imagined they would be. I know they are heavier than normal saddles, so do you notice it at all while commuting? That's a nice bike, and good to know that 700c isn't a penalty to ride in the slop. I, on the other hand, fell off my bike in some deep slush. No studs, and prolly too much air (70psi).
    At 230lbs myself, the 100 or so grams difference in weight between a B17 and an a$$ hatchet makes no difference. I do run a Team Pro Ti , which is a few grams lighter, on my road bike, which is why I can drop the neighbor's 5yr old daughter when I ride it and dial it up to 400 watts...at least until she takes off the training wheels.

    Seriously, the little bit of extra weight is well worth the ability to spend hours in the saddle in comfort and not having to wear padded shorts for my commute.
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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    Thanks for the input, Chip! Just itching to get me a Brooks!
    Every time we let a vehicle pass there is a little bit of compromise. But compromise allows the city to function and allows cyclists to function in the city. The trick is not to eliminate compromise but to learn how to work safely within it.

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