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    i was driving my brother-in-laws piece of crap bike today. i had to bike from his place to my place and the whole time i was only going about 5-10km/h because it had no brake. i gave my sister my buddy's bike because i knew it had brakes. i might end up giving both bikes a tune up before i give them back to who they belong to. its not like the people that own them need them. i will see about posting pics tomorrow.

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    Surly 1x1 converted to a 1x7. 2.5 WTB Prowlers w/ homemade DIY studs.

    I added the MRP Chain guide after having the chain jump off more than I liked whenever I had it on the trail. I was going to go with a simple chain guide but I let the mechanic at my LBS talk me into getting the Lopes. It does shift better and no more chain jumping. In the winter I switch over to homemade powergrips to accomodate whatever winter boot I wear. They work perfectly. see pg 14 of this thread on how to make them.


    So now I have my trail bike turned into a heavy-duy winter bike.
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    This is my other winter commuter; a Giant hybrid. I use it when there is more than ~0.5" of snow on the roads.

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    Montreal isn't Alaska - but sometimes it feels like it!

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    This is my current winter bike - a 1993 Giant Prodigy that was purchased used, stripped and re-assembled. The rims are Japanese welded rims and the rear needed to be straightened, but I figured the quality and condition of the rims made it worthwhile to straighten the rim and re-spoke the wheel. A few parts were upgraded - the cassette was swapped over for a wider range model, fenders were added and in this photo there are cyclo-cross tires. Kona mtb pedals make it easy to bicycle wearing Sorel insulated boots.

    The bearings everywhere were cleaned and repacked with white lithium grease and I did intentionally do a 30km stint on the coldest day of the year in 2010 (-30C) and had no issues with the brakes, derailleurs or shifters, and the wheels and cranks showed no noticeable resistance.

    I've since gone to the widest Nokian studded tires available here for 700 rims, but would really like something wider than the 42c profile. Its not all that big and regardless of what I've heard about narrow tires 'cutting through the snow' better, I'm after more stability in that frozen mush that gets created when salt and snow get churned up by the buses and trucks.

    Most of the bicycle paths here get plowed, driving in the street is usually not an issue, and I'd really like to try something wider. I understand that ice racers use super wide tires. Considering the overall weight of the extra clothing and the practical limits set by driving conditions - a little extra resistance might go unnoticed and the practical advantages from improved braking and extra stability would be more than welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burton View Post
    1993 Giant Prodigy set up for winter 600 x 800.jpg
    I've since gone to the widest Nokian studded tires available here for 700 rims, but would really like something wider than the 42c profile. Its not all that big and regardless of what I've heard about narrow tires 'cutting through the snow' better, I'm after more stability in that frozen mush that gets created when salt and snow get churned up by the buses and trucks.
    It's your bike and you can of course do whatever you like but I feel the need to point out the flaw in your logic arguing with the narrower-is-better theory... Since you bought the widest available tires (42mm) you don't actually have narrow tires. Get some 35mm tires on there and then report back. I went from 38mm tires to 32mm one winter in Ottawa and felt like a fool for not doing it sooner. The next winter I was given a mountain bike and forgot all about the lesson I had learned the previous winter and left the 2.2 in. tires on and struggled to keep the bike going straight every single ride.

    And you are complaining about the stability... well the conditions you describe (mashed-potato consitency slush on top of pavement) are exactly where actual narrow tires (like 35mm or narrower) will make a big difference. If it is -30c (ambient temp - without windchill) then the slush will be frozen and fatter tires will work better, IMHO.

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    I went from Nokian 35s to the Extremes. World of difference in all conditions. Not a fan of the narrow tire theory unless I'm on clear pavement with glare ice and don't want to push around the Extremes.

    Of course since the Pugsley arrived the studded bikes have been parked. Lots of snow here. When / if we get an ice storm the fixed MTB with the Extremes will get the call.

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    ˇThanks for the input!

    Quote Originally Posted by LarDasse74 View Post
    It's your bike and you can of course do whatever you like but I feel the need to point out the flaw in your logic arguing with the narrower-is-better theory... Since you bought the widest available tires (42mm) you don't actually have narrow tires. Get some 35mm tires on there and then report back. I went from 38mm tires to 32mm one winter in Ottawa and felt like a fool for not doing it sooner. The next winter I was given a mountain bike and forgot all about the lesson I had learned the previous winter and left the 2.2 in. tires on and struggled to keep the bike going straight every single ride.

    And you are complaining about the stability... well the conditions you describe (mashed-potato consitency slush on top of pavement) are exactly where actual narrow tires (like 35mm or narrower) will make a big difference. If it is -30c (ambient temp - without windchill) then the slush will be frozen and fatter tires will work better, IMHO.
    Always nice to hear from someone else in The Great White North!! I actually started winter biking on Hutchinson Tech Gold Pro Series 700 x 30c cyclo-cross tires. The relatively soft rubber compound and aggressive tread gave pretty good traction in the snow but the same stability issues in that mushy stuff that I'm experiencing now. The reasons I even looked at studded tires were simply because I wanted a wider tire, and at one point a couple years ago I ran into a 30 foot stretch of flooded bicycle path with 6 inches of water covering about 2 inches of sheer ice and almost took the polar bear plunge!!

    I certainly agree that temperature can impact snow conditions, but even at -30C, the heavy weight of buses and trucks can crush and churn a frozen snow mixture into a thick muddy consistency here thats greasy and heavy even though its still frozen. Snow removal in Montreal isn't always up to par - maybe you have better service in Ottawa!

    So since my last posting one of my friends installed some Innova 54 x 559 (26 x 2.1) studded tires on his beach cruiser. OK - so I had to check it out and tried it on the bike paths, off-road in the fields in some of the fresh snow that we've been hit with lately, and through some of that stuff that normally gives me issues. In short its a blast to drive and I'm not quite sure what to attribute it to. The overall wheel diameter is close between our bikes because of the larger tires on the smaller wheel size, but his tires are MUCH wider, his seating position is much more upright (the bars put a LOT less weight over the front wheel), and the bars are wider which might give more steering leverage.

    Initially I wanted some Schwalbes that had a 700 X 47c profile but unfortunately they weren't available in Canada. At this point I'm considering importing some from the US. However I also have an electric bike (Velec B2) that Id love to put some of those Innovas on!! FUN is always the prime objective!!
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    What kind of frame is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scroca View Post
    What kind of frame is that?
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    From a ride in the ADKs:


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    After my 23 miles yesterday ... good thing I was not thirsty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoatw View Post
    Surly 1x1 converted to a 1x7. 2.5 WTB Prowlers w/ homemade DIY studs.

    I added the MRP Chain guide after having the chain jump off more than I liked whenever I had it on the trail. I was going to go with a simple chain guide but I let the mechanic at my LBS talk me into getting the Lopes. It does shift better and no more chain jumping. In the winter I switch over to homemade powergrips to accomodate whatever winter boot I wear. They work perfectly. see pg 14 of this thread on how to make them.


    So now I have my trail bike turned into a heavy-duy winter bike.
    Have any close-ups of tire clearance, or an actual width measurement of those tires? Nashbar had a closeout on them last week for $10 each (well, some model 2.5" WTBs anyway) and I was tempted but I didn't think they'd fit my frame and fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob! View Post
    Have any close-ups of tire clearance, or an actual width measurement of those tires? Nashbar had a closeout on them last week for $10 each (well, some model 2.5" WTBs anyway) and I was tempted but I didn't think they'd fit my frame and fork.
    Those are the WTB Prowler MX Team DH. That is an excellent price for them. I wish I'd seen that earlier. The tire itself fully inflated measures roughtly 2.50 inches across. My rear seat stay measures about 3.5 inches across. Hope that helps. Its an awesome tire that'll roll thru anything, but you won't set no speed records with it.
    If that's too big then try a 2.3 tire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoatw View Post
    Those are the WTB Prowler MX Team DH. That is an excellent price for them. I wish I'd seen that earlier. The tire itself fully inflated measures roughtly 2.50 inches across. My rear seat stay measures about 3.5 inches across. Hope that helps. Its an awesome tire that'll roll thru anything, but you won't set no speed records with it.
    If that's too big then try a 2.3 tire.
    I just checked and I seem to have about 3" of clearance front and rear. The tires are priced at $15 each right now, so I think I might take a chance with them anyways. Running 2.1" tires studded at the moment and they're fantastic on ice and hard pack, but don't help much in snow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmike View Post
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    Beautiful... I miss the snow.

    Just a little.

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    When I showed casual interest in this 1978 Schwinn Suburban at a local swap meet a while back, the owner lowered the price to $10. When I still balked he threw in two more bikes!



    The original 27" steel wheels were replaced with an aluminum 700c set I had, and 35mm Innova studded tires were mounted. Other upgrades include On One Mary bars with Tektro brake levers, newer Forte Contour saddle, BMX pedals and planet bike fenders.



    I normally only ride it around the neighborhood or to local stores, but have taken it on the 13 mile (each way) work commute a few times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    Beautiful... I miss the snow.

    Just a little.
    yeah, we are getting our fair share this week...
    too deep for the pugs now. but the shoes or skis will work...

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    I have DIY studded tires on it that have been great on the icy trail this winter. Currently only on the front.

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    The front fender has a two-liter bottle attached to it. For some reason, people passing me in cars gave me a funny look. It's great how you get a full-body workout in order to ride in a straight line. winterbike.jpg

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    I went on my maiden voyage on what I call the Black Widow, Its a nashbar MTB frame made up with 700 wheels and left over parts I had in the spare parts bin. That is except for the pedals, the headset and Kenda Klondike 700X40 studded snow tires, which I bought from good ole Nashbar.
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