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    Superfeet Performance Cold Weather Insole

    Is anybody using these? Or can anybody get a good look at them?

    http://www.altrec.com/shop/detail/20156

    What do you think? Are they worth $40? How thick are they?

    I have some Lake MX255's purchased a full size large to accomodate thick wool socks. The insoles in them are about 3/16" thick under the ball of the foot. I'm sure I could accomodate another 1/16" or so worth of insole but I'm uncertain about room for a full 3/8" thick insole.

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    I use these in my ski boots, and I have to say I was disappointed. They are very comfortable, but did not make my boots any warmer. I love Superfeet in general. I think they work best if you're on your feet all day, standing around, walking or hiking. I have had Superfeet in a pair of bike shoes, and doesn't really do anything. HTH
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    Everybody in my riding group that has tried them agree that "Toasty Feet" brand insoles add about 10 degrees Fahrenheit of comfort. YMMV.
    What is better than getting your heart rate up and saddle time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dekindy View Post
    Everybody in my riding group that has tried them agree that "Toasty Feet" brand insoles add about 10 degrees Fahrenheit of comfort. YMMV.
    I got a pair of these from the Vermont Country Store last year. After lining the bottom of my winter shoes with aluminum tape, the shoes are the warmest they've been since I bought them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dekindy View Post
    Everybody in my riding group that has tried them agree that "Toasty Feet" brand insoles add about 10 degrees Fahrenheit of comfort. YMMV.
    I've been looking at the Toasty Feet insoles as well. Do they have any arch to speak of? I need one and that's why I've been concentrating on the Superfeet insole. What about the thickness? I'd wouldn't mind something taking up just a little more space in these shoes. I haven't been able to find any information about the sizing either. Is the men's insole trimmable down to a size 8?

    I suppose I could put a completely flat 1/8" thermal layer beneath the Spenco Ironman insoles I usually buy for my running, light hiking, and cycling shoes too.

    The overall intent it to hit the 15-30F range with shoe covers, 25-40 without. I love them but my Lake MX255's currently fall about 5-10 short of that goal. My 661 Dually spd's already get me down to freezing with covers and I'd prefer to have the Lakes doing more than just "a little better".
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    There is no arch. They were too thick last year and made my shoes fit too tight. But they still added warmth and were worth the discomfort.

    I purchased my shoes in August 06. Apparently my shoes have stretched out a little after wearing them this summer. This winter there is plenty of room in my shoe for a thicker winter sock and the insoles. They are also providing even more warmth because of the extra air space and less constriction on my feet. I can wiggle my toes to get them warm.

    You trim the insole to size. They have cutting guides just like other insoles made to cut to size.

    I cannot comment on your specific shoes. I just know that the Toasty Feet insole is now keeping my feet warm enough for the temperatures that I have ridden last winter and this winter to date that I don't think I am going to winter specific shoes. I have Shimano summer shoes and the Shimano PD-6610 spd-sl pedal.

    The Vermont Country store natural fleece insoles that cyccommuter references look interesting. I would definitely give them a try also. The price is right. You might try a pair of the original 30 below over the calf socks also. For $24 plus shipping there is not much cash at risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
    I got a pair of these from the Vermont Country Store last year. After lining the bottom of my winter shoes with aluminum tape, the shoes are the warmest they've been since I bought them.
    How did you come up with the idea of aluminum tape? What kind of aluminum tape?

    I am interested in hearing more. Just to verify, you put the tape in and then the fleece insole on top of the tape?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dekindy View Post
    How did you come up with the idea of aluminum tape? What kind of aluminum tape?

    I am interested in hearing more. Just to verify, you put the tape in and then the fleece insole on top of the tape?
    A closer reading reveals that you put the tape on the bottom of your shoes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dekindy View Post
    A closer reading reveals that you put the tape on the bottom of your shoes?
    Aluminum furnace tape to be exact. I put the tape inside the shoe to

    1. Cover the cleat holes and cut down on the cold spot on top of the metal cleat

    2. My hillbilly version of reflecting heat back on my toes. I ran across an insole that had the same idea (don't remember where) and I fashioned a pair from overlapping the tape and cutting them out. That just fell apart so I taped the furnace tape to the bottom of the shoe. I don't know if it really works but my feet are a little warmer now. The fleece helps a lot.
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    OK, here we go. Mark at the local full service outdoor store actually called Superfeet and talked to them directly. Just try and get that kind of service at the Sports Authority. The principal difference between the Wintergreen Cold Weather Insole and their Maximum Cushion Green Insole is a thin layer of Outlast insulation. I decided to go ahead and order them and buy a couple of more base layers too.

    Well, they're here and I measured them. Beneath the ball of the foot they are 0.185"-0.190" thick. The old insoles were 0.145"-0.160" thick and obviously not intended to hold in any heat. I might line the bottom of the shoes with some aluminum tape as well. In any case, I'll let you know how much improvement they offer when I make my next frigid commute.

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    I've got a couple pair of the Toasty Feet on their way, one for my cycling shoes, and another for my regular boots.

    They make a pair with arch support, it's on their website http://www.toastyfeet.com/store.html, just scroll down the product line till you get to them.

    we'll see how these do. I absolutely hate cold feet, and while my Northwaves keep my feet warmer, they're still cold, just not uncomfortably so. Just the other day, I cut out some pieces of a space blanket to line the bottom of the sole with, and hopefully, these insoles will be the final piece to the puzzle.

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    my Toasty Feet came today, and I haven't tried them out in my Northwave cycling boots yet(nice day today, but a bit windy, and I just don't feel like riding), if what I'm feeling with the pair I put in my regular winter boots, I'm going to be very happy with these.

    My apartment is pretty cold in winter, and even with Columbia Bugabootoo insulated boots, if I'm just sitting around doing nothing, like now, sitting at the computer, my feet still get a bit cold. But wiuth these in them, my feet are toasty warm. I can feel colder air up around the upper ankle, where the top of the boot ends, but my feet themselves are quite warm and comfy.

    The Northwaves keep my feet from being uncomfortably freezing, but they aren't really warm either. Hopefully, these will help them go from just being bearably cold, to maybe a little bit comfy as well.

    I say give 'em a try, they aren't that expensive.

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    My Superfeet insoles arrived and I trimmed them to size and put them in. There might not be a big difference between them and other thermal insoles but the difference between the Superfeet insoles and what was definitely a non-thermal insole is noticeable.

    Before installing them, the Lakes got me down to the mid to high 30's without shoe covers. When standing on ice cold ground, it seemed like the warmth was just disappearing into the earth. On Wednesday, a GF and I met for a drink and a dessert at Ruby Tuesday after she got off work at 10PM. It was about 15F and I decided to wear the bike shoes (that look like work boots) just to see how they handled it. After finishing our order, we went outside so she could have a smoke and we could say goodbye. After 10 minutes in the cold, she couldn't stand it any longer and my feet were still toasty warm. Much much better.

    On Saturday, I rolled out to do my Christmas shopping on the tour bike at 25F. I brought shoe covers just in case but wanted to see if I could get by without them. Lo and behold, an hour and eight or so miles later I arrived at the local tavern for a brew and a Philly steak. My feet were cool but not uncomfortably cold. Same thing after another hour and stopping to get groceries on the way home. I would consider that a solid 10F improvement. I also stopped and bought a pair of semi-inexpensive safety glasses to help keep my eyes from watering. No only did they help with that, they don't seem fog up as easily as my other glasses do too. Gotta love that.

    Adding some decent shoe covers should get me down to 15F without being uncomfortable which is spot on what I wanted to achieve. I call that two thumbs up.

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