Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Winter Cycling Don't let snow and ice discourage you this winter. The key element to year-round cycling is proper attire! Check out this winter cycling forum to chat with other ice bike fanatics.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-01-08, 08:55 PM   #1
besserheimerpha
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: NE Central Iowa
Bikes:
Posts: 74
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Chain cleaning during the winter

How often? I just went for my first winter ride last weekend, and as a result bought my first chain degreaser and lube. After the ride I brushed and blew all the slush out of the drivetrain. I plan to go for a couple more rides this weekend, since temperatures are climbing back towards 30. My drivetrain is sure to get messy again this weekend, so I'm wondering how often I need to clean everything with the degreaser and lube.

FYI, my riding is all in town right now as my trail is not ridable with the amount of snow and ruts from snowmobiles. It's a small town of 900 people - I know we use sand, but I don't think we use much if any salt. The roads are usually pretty well plowed, but last weekend there was still a lot of slush especially on the side streets, and there will be more of the same this weekend.

Thanks,

John
besserheimerpha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-08, 08:59 PM   #2
Sixty Fiver
Bicycle Repair Man !!!
 
Sixty Fiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: YEG
Bikes: See my sig...
Posts: 27,262
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
I ride nearly 30 km a day and probably clean and oil my chain every 3 days depending on the road conditions.

When it is really cold and dry as it has been, the chain does not require the same level of service it does when things are warmer and there is a lot of slush, salt, and sand flying around.
Sixty Fiver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-08, 11:31 AM   #3
Intheloonybin
Senior Member
 
Intheloonybin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Bikes: 1987 Denti w dura ace (road)/ "cheap" Jamis (mtn)
Posts: 315
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
When it has been sloppy, I have to spray my chain after every ride (commuting). We use salt here, but it is really just the fact that it gets wet that screws it up.

I have been using WD40 during the winter instead of the good lube I have. It's cheaper, and works great.

I plan on doing an overhaul in the spring when the snow is done for sure, and will clean or replace the chain.
Intheloonybin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-08, 11:39 PM   #4
unixpro
Laid back bent rider
 
unixpro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Burien, WA
Bikes: Bacchetta Giro 20
Posts: 1,134
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I do 28 miles a day, 5 days a week. I clean on Sundays. I clean the chain, dry it off with a paper towel, and put on some new Pedro's Ice Wax. I also check the tires and refill the AirZounds if necessary.
unixpro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-08, 07:30 AM   #5
ryansexton
ALL PARTY
 
ryansexton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada
Bikes: Douglas Touring Cross Wise, Urbanite Fixed Gear
Posts: 664
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I clean my chain e very single day. Roads are way too salty to leave anything at risk. I've seen rust build up on my chain after two days of leaving it without cleaning it.

I usually wipe down my entire bike, the pour buckets of water on it, dry it off, let the chain dry for a few hours (do a regular water rinse first) and then use all purpose oil. I just apply it on my chain ring, hub, bearings, and a few random spots on the disc and chain. Then I spin the wheel a few hundred times. This does the job for keepign rust off.

Anyone have any other, easier or more efficient ways?
ryansexton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-08, 07:46 AM   #6
Sixty Fiver
Bicycle Repair Man !!!
 
Sixty Fiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: YEG
Bikes: See my sig...
Posts: 27,262
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Wd 40 is a poor lube for chains as it is 90% solvent... a 3 to 1 mix of mineral spirits and motor oil is an excellent low cost chain lube for all conditions. Motor oil on it;s own works great but the mineral spirits carry that oil to the inner points of the chain and provide better lubrication.

For cleaning I have a gallon bottle full of organic cleaner / degreaser... I just drop the chain in there and shake it up for 3-4 minutes, rinse it, then reinstall and oil the chain.
Sixty Fiver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-08, 08:57 AM   #7
Intheloonybin
Senior Member
 
Intheloonybin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Bikes: 1987 Denti w dura ace (road)/ "cheap" Jamis (mtn)
Posts: 315
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I know wd40 is a not-so-favorable lube for chains (not being defensive), but it's cheap. And when having to spray the chain twice a day, it is nice to use cheap stuff.

Plus there are two cans at work that I can use.

It has worked quite well so far. As mentioned above, once the snow is gone, I will clean and switch back to the better lube. And maybe replace the poor tortured chain .

I would rather use the good oil I have, but I think it was $8. for a fairly small bottle. I'll look for a different, cheaper lube the next time I go to my lbs.

Isn't the motor oil messy?
Intheloonybin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-08, 09:00 AM   #8
ryansexton
ALL PARTY
 
ryansexton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada
Bikes: Douglas Touring Cross Wise, Urbanite Fixed Gear
Posts: 664
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Just use KY jelly.
ryansexton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-08, 09:34 AM   #9
Intheloonybin
Senior Member
 
Intheloonybin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Bikes: 1987 Denti w dura ace (road)/ "cheap" Jamis (mtn)
Posts: 315
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryansexton View Post
Just use KY jelly.
There's a joke in there somewhere! (ok, more than one...)

But seriously, does it work?
Intheloonybin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-08, 09:38 AM   #10
mmerner
okay maybe not.
 
mmerner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: waukesha, wi
Bikes: oh a bunch.
Posts: 598
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
never, if the chain looks dry or rusty, I'll lube it up. That is all for me. 'course I ride a single speed.
__________________
question everything.
mmerner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-08, 09:56 AM   #11
ironviet
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
glad to read this, i've been doing it weekly. it just sounds and rides better when the chain gets a good treatment of some lube!!
ironviet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-08, 10:46 AM   #12
pinkrobe
DNPAIMFB
 
pinkrobe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cowtown, AB
Bikes: Titus El Guapo, Misfit diSSent, Cervelo Soloist Carbon, Wabi Lightning, et al.
Posts: 4,654
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I've been lubing once every couple of weeks with normal chain lube [Finish Line XC Wet - $4.95, small bottle should last at least 1 year spread across 6 bikes]. There's a bit of rust on the side plates, but it just wipes off. Using a better-quality chain helps prevent rust. Try one of the nice nickel-plated SRAM chains.
__________________
Proud Member of the HHCMF
'06 Cervelo Soloist Carbon | '09 Titus El Guapo | '09 Misfit diSSent | '09 Wabi Lightning
pinkrobe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-08, 11:27 AM   #13
ghettocruiser
Former Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: dropmachine.com
Bikes:
Posts: 4,062
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thick PhilWood-type stuff on a Dura-Ace chain about once a week

No rust, shifts fine.
ghettocruiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-08, 11:46 AM   #14
mazpr
Banned.
 
mazpr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: East Side
Bikes: Tirreno Razza 900, Trek 750
Posts: 384
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I jump in to say about WD-40, the same deal not to be defensive, it does work wonders. Once the chain is clean and dry spraying some WD helps keep it clean and lubed. I have had my chain for 3,000 miles now using the same WD lube, so far no problems.

The chain cleaner tool is amazing, it does it job well by removing all the grease and dirt from the chain. A few cleaning cycles works very well and the results are almost as good as removing the chain.

Note: A good lube treatment is transmission oil, place it on a spray bottle and if you want to dilute it just add a little bit of diesel fuel. I have my customized 70% transmission oil, 20% diesel and 10% fresh engine oil mixed on a spray bottle. It does not affect the paint, drivetrain components or wheels, although be careful not to spray on the brakes.
mazpr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-08, 11:57 AM   #15
Portis
Banned.
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Home alone
Bikes: Trek 4300 X 2. Trek 1000, Trek 6000
Posts: 6,019
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I don't clean my chain in the winter or any other time. Use lube lightly and WD40 the chain if it gets wet.
Portis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-08, 12:07 PM   #16
San Rensho 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 5,547
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryansexton View Post
I clean my chain e very single day. Roads are way too salty to leave anything at risk. I've seen rust build up on my chain after two days of leaving it without cleaning it.

I usually wipe down my entire bike, the pour buckets of water on it, dry it off, let the chain dry for a few hours (do a regular water rinse first) and then use all purpose oil. I just apply it on my chain ring, hub, bearings, and a few random spots on the disc and chain. Then I spin the wheel a few hundred times. This does the job for keepign rust off.

Anyone have any other, easier or more efficient ways?
If you have 1 minute to spare every time you ride, my method will keep your drivetrain perfectly clean.

After every ride, grab the chain with a rag in one hand and spin the cranks backward. You will see that after a very few revolutions, the chain will turn from black to its original color.

Now put about 1 teaspoon or less of oil on the chain. The easiest way is with an oil can or plastic bottle that has a spout. Put the spout of the can/bottle against the inside lower rung of the chain and as you squeeze, turn the cranks backwards to distribute the oil. The spout has to make contact with the chain, real close doesn't work.

The next time you ride your bike, repeat the cleaning step above to remove the excess oil.
__________________
Il faut de l'audace, encore de l'audace, toujours de l'audace

1980 3Rensho-- 1975 Raleigh Sprite 3spd
1990s Raleigh M20 MTB--2007 Windsor Hour (track)
1988 Ducati 750 F1
San Rensho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-08, 12:15 PM   #17
riddei
Needing more power Scotty
 
riddei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Northern New England (USA)
Bikes: 2006 Trek T-80 (commuter) 1982 Bianchi SS (classic 12 speed)
Posts: 588
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I find this to be a very realistic approach to chain maintenance: http://nordicgroup.us/chain/

Cleaning with diesel, and lubing with bar and chain oil a couple of times a month. I have a dedicated chain gang for the diesel, and one for the bar and chain oil.
riddei is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-08, 04:50 PM   #18
scoatw
Senior Member
 
scoatw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: central ohio
Bikes: 96 gary fisher 'utopia' : 99 Softride 'Norwester'(for sale), 1972 Raleigh Twenty. Surly 1x1 converted to 1x8, 96 Turner Burner
Posts: 1,520
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
I put a few drops of Finish Line Wet Lubricant when my chain looks dry. At least once or every other week I break out out the chain cleaning tool and give it a good scrub. Once a month I'll do this. drop the chain into a plastic Coke bottle with a couple of ounces of un-diluted citrus degreaser (or Simple Green), cap it, and shake thoroughly. Fish the chain out with a spoke or coat hanger, rinse in water, and you are all set! (Ref: Sheldon Brown). Chain Maintenance is essential, particularly in these cold months. A Park Chain Checker wouldn't be bad to have in your tool-box either.
scoatw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-08, 04:51 PM   #19
RomSpaceKnight
Senior Member
 
RomSpaceKnight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Ontario, Canada
Bikes: Devinci Taos, Mielle Alpha
Posts: 418
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I stop at car wash and use the foaming brush on my drive train once a week. Then In use spray gun with out pulling trigger to rinse off. I use motorcycle chain lube spray to lube chain. To clean chain I use WD40. I use motor oil on linkages and pivots.
RomSpaceKnight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-08, 01:20 PM   #20
ahayter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ottawa
Bikes: surly steamroller and a miyata one hundred
Posts: 98
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmerner View Post
never, if the chain looks dry or rusty, I'll lube it up. That is all for me. 'course I ride a single speed.

Same here. I ride a beater which was formally my polo bike but now my winter ride. The chain is about 8 months old and I've been riding it in slush and snow for 3 months now. It will probably break on me soon but C'EST LA VIE!
ahayter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-08, 04:32 PM   #21
crhilton
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Bikes: '07 Trek 1500, '08 Surly Cross Check, '09 Masi Speciale Sprint custom build
Posts: 4,568
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by besserheimerpha View Post
How often? I just went for my first winter ride last weekend, and as a result bought my first chain degreaser and lube. After the ride I brushed and blew all the slush out of the drivetrain. I plan to go for a couple more rides this weekend, since temperatures are climbing back towards 30. My drivetrain is sure to get messy again this weekend, so I'm wondering how often I need to clean everything with the degreaser and lube.

FYI, my riding is all in town right now as my trail is not ridable with the amount of snow and ruts from snowmobiles. It's a small town of 900 people - I know we use sand, but I don't think we use much if any salt. The roads are usually pretty well plowed, but last weekend there was still a lot of slush especially on the side streets, and there will be more of the same this weekend.

Thanks,

John
My rule is: Clean it when it makes irritating noises. This is usually between 150 and 300 miles for me.
crhilton is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:36 PM.