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    nokian studded tire and fit questions

    this morning was a very tense ride home from work. I have Nokian W106s 700x35 front and back. Part of my commute was a partially plowed road that had a layer of 'hard' pack. It seemed that building any speed would cause me to break through the pack but in such a way that the tires slipped from side to side. It was a battle keeping the bike upright. Going slower than normal, I was usually able to control the bike pretty good with a few cases of slip. I did just inflate to max PSI (65) Sunday and don't really like to run at really low PSI; am usually between 40 and 60.

    The bike: Raleigh Detour 3.0 comfort hybrid with suspension front fork.
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    Tires: currently Nokian W106 700x35; Stock Kenda Kourier 700x40,
    Rims Weinmann CN520 with a sticker that says 700x28/35
    Got a few extra bucks and am interested in the Nokian W240 700x40 but will it fit?
    Does the sticker mean the rims are designed for 700c tires in the 28-35mm width? I ask because the bike came stock with 700x40 tires and I may be interested in narrower slicks this summer.
    Lastly the sticker says something about a safety line. I assume that means the rim can wear to the edge of the sticker before needing replacement? Seems like a lot of metal to wear away.

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    As far as the front wheel slipping around like that, it might be because it isn't contacting anything solid to gain traction from. You might want to consider going with a narrower tire up front. It's counter-intuitive, but the narrower tire will push down into the snow more effectively than a wider tire, which will "float" on top a bit more. When I was using a 2.1" [~52C] studded tire, my front end would wash out constantly in the sloppy crap made of snow, salt and sand that we have here in the winter. I switched to a 38C tire this year, and now I "cut" into the slop much more effectively. YMMV...
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    If you're worried about fit, how about the Schwalbe Marathon Winter? 700x35, 240 studs, and I think does a great job of tracking in the snow and ice.
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    Given a choice, I would go with thinner tires.

    My 2.1's ride me up on top of snow and it gets tough really quickly. On "deep" snow days, I have to drive.

    My NEXT bike will have thinner tires to overcome that. I used to ride my road bike through deep snow when I was younger and it worked great with the thin tires.

    Plus less rolling resistance does not always sound bad either .

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    The conditions you describe are about the worst to ride on. I too thought maybe wider tires would help, but following MTBers with fat, aggressive tires around in it one night, I found they were having the same troubles.

    Last year I ran my W106s near max pressure all season. Earlier this year, on this very forum (but I'm too lazy to search), I challenged a rider who said that in the worst conditions, he deflated the tires to about half. He said he had no troubles with pinch flats and the grip was greatly improved.

    I tried it. He was right.

    This season I've run my W106s as low as 25F/30R with no tire, tube or rim damage. And they are much grippier at the lower pressure. If there's no snow or ice, I pump them right up. When it gets sketchy, I let some out.
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    thanks for all the advice. will try the lower pressure method instead of fatter tire with more spikes. maybe next time will try the SMW since they have reflective sidewalls.

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