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Old 02-05-04, 09:09 PM   #1
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No More Fogging Goggles

I tried many options. Sun glasses, shop goggles with lots of holes for ventilation and ski goggles. They all fogged up. Was shopping at our Meijer store, which is similar to Walmart, in the Automotive Dept. I saw something that might work out. For about $8.00 I purchased a Motorcycle visor that snaps onto a Motorcycle helmet. I also pick up a cheap bike helmet so I wouldn't ruin my good one. On the way home I stopped at True Value and found snaps that had screws in them to attach to the bike helmet. See the attached pictures. Still fogs a little but I can swivel it up to clear it. Not 100% perfect but works better than anything I've used yet. I've found that if I breathe though my balaclava it barely fogs at all. The only problem I haven't solved yet when rain freezes on the outside of it.
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Old 02-06-04, 04:04 AM   #2
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There was a post on here last fall about helmet visors, a few people use them and seem to be happy. They do make some specifically for bike helmets, but I think they're around $20. I get by with some aerodynamic looking safety glasses, they only fog up when I stop, so I try to not stop very much.
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Can you say "fogging" on this site?
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I'm still happy with my Smiths. Like Pinerider when I stop I tend to fog the lens, and it clears when I get under way. Although the other night with the -4 F temps there was some freezing, and it was difficult to remove the crust.
I've tried the shop goggles, as well as the ones they sell for raquet ball, but the lens' get scratched too easily, making them dangerous on the ride, when on coming traffic hits them with headlights. And ski goggles, well we've all tried them. Like everyone else I don't know the trick to keeping them clear. They work okay, but slowly fog, until frustrated you pull them off, and put on your glasses. I have thought of making larger holes. But one of the problmes with the goggles I've got was the foam that is in contact with the face collects sweat, so that is like more vapor being added to the inside of the goggles. Anyone ever try scuba gear?
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I tried many options. Sun glasses, shop goggles with lots of holes for ventilation and ski goggles. They all fogged up. Was shopping at our Meijer store, which is similar to Walmart, in the Automotive Dept. I saw something that might work out. For about $8.00 I purchased a Motorcycle visor that snaps onto a Motorcycle helmet. I also pick up a cheap bike helmet so I wouldn't ruin my good one. On the way home I stopped at True Value and found snaps that had screws in them to attach to the bike helmet. See the attached pictures. Still fogs a little but I can swivel it up to clear it. Not 100% perfect but works better than anything I've used yet. I've found that if I breathe though my balaclava it barely fogs at all. The only problem I haven't solved yet when rain freezes on the outside of it.

THAT, my friend is creative thinking! Good to keep the icy blast off your face. Still doesn't help those of use who where Rx glasses tho. I think that the heat rising from my body would still fog my Rx glasses and this would help keep the heat next to them - making it worse (maybe).

It's an inexpensive project and I'll look into trying it I think.....


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Old 02-13-04, 11:19 AM   #6
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Performence sells them for bike helmets The only problem I had with them is they are not made for rain and the dark ones made me look like a storm trooper.

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...e.cfm?SKU=5077
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I had been riding without goggles until about 3 weeks ago, when my 7 mile ride to work here in Minneapolis was performed at -10. By the time I got to work my eyelashes had literally frozen to each other, hindering opening of my eyes. It was at this time I decided I needed some goggles. I bought a pair from my local bicycle co-op and they worked great, only fogging up when stopped. This was until 2 weeks ago when the temp dropped to negative 23 (before windchill) at which time I developed a layer of ice on the inside lens of the goggles. It was so bad that 1/2 way through my ride, I saw a bus going near where I was, and caught it just to get away from the cold.

Winter sucks here, although we got up to 43 today, the first time over freezing in about 45 days.
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Ride with a little less effort if possible to cool down while tipping or venting the goggles. Stop for just a minute if you need too.When it gets so cold they ice over.Stop, put them in your pocket until the ice is water again (not long). When the ice is water wipe it off with a good lens cleaning rag that will not scratch the goggles. If you have two pair of goggles with you,just keep repeating this.Switch to sunglasses if it gets too hot to prevent fogging. OK it's a lot of stuff, 2 goggles and a pair of sunglasses,but it has been working in this climate for me for a few years. I have never had to quit or go back even with icing. I have never had a chance to try this below zero degrees farenheit.That is a rare condition here.
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Yeah well I hope I too won't have to worry much about that till next year... Seems like the worst of the winter is behind us... (Thank god)...
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Old 03-31-04, 08:13 AM   #10
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I tried many options. Sun glasses, shop goggles with lots of holes for ventilation and ski goggles. They all fogged up. Was shopping at our Meijer store, which is similar to Walmart, in the Automotive Dept. I saw something that might work out. For about $8.00 I purchased a Motorcycle visor that snaps onto a Motorcycle helmet. I also pick up a cheap bike helmet so I wouldn't ruin my good one. On the way home I stopped at True Value and found snaps that had screws in them to attach to the bike helmet. See the attached pictures. Still fogs a little but I can swivel it up to clear it. Not 100% perfect but works better than anything I've used yet. I've found that if I breathe though my balaclava it barely fogs at all. The only problem I haven't solved yet when rain freezes on the outside of it.
I'm glad you found something that works. I use double-paned ski goggles and a Mountain Hardware balaclava that has holes for my mouth and nose. http://www.greatoutdoors.com/go/prod...va/altrec.com/. It is pricey, $37.50 everywear I looked, but worth it. The temps got down to 7F, and the only time I had even minor trouble with fogging was if I started breathing into the balaclava instead of through one of the holes. When I started breathing through the holes again, the fog went away immediately.

So if you are having trouble with fogging, it may be a problem with your balaclava, not your goggles.
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I can dirtect my breath away from the goggles too, when the bike is moving along ok like on the road or at a steady pace. I used double paned ski goggles too.It was ok on the road as I was moving along and not too sweaty. Even with the balalava over my mouth. But as I went off road and very slow and had to work hard,even with my lower face not covered, then, the googles would fog, and if it was cold, the fog would turn to ice eventually. Not a huge problem as no goggles is ok for a while at slow speed. But eventually to go fast again I needed to cover my eyes again. There are so many variables that you have to keep I think you need to keep experimenting to see what works for what kind conditionds you are operating under.I think this will go away soon, as I live in New England.Next year I probably will be still searching for a more convenient set up if there is one.A long helmet visor can warm up your face a little if you tip your head down if you need to go without eye protection for a short time too. I read somewhere that there were fan vented goggles in existence. I wonder if you could get the fans going when you need them and turn them off when you don't? Some kind of goggle with a huge vent to open below and above the lens may work a little. I had some once many years ago.?? I don't think I ever used the vents when I was skiing.?
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They make a cloth that has an oily substance that you rub on ski goggles that keeps than from fogging up. They work really good!
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They make a cloth that has an oily substance that you rub on ski goggles that keeps than from fogging up. They work really good!
Do you know the name of it? Or where to get it? Have you tried it when it is about 15 degrees and actually becomes an icing problem? Thanks!
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There's also a good way to prevent your googles from becoming foggy through your breath. I just use a dust mask (is this the right expression? sorry 4 my bad english) under my balaklava. Additionally i drilled some holes into the lower part of it.
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Old 08-23-04, 11:55 PM   #15
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To prevent fogging in Rx glasses, you might want to consider something like Fogtech. I've used it in a paintball mask before, while sweating up a storm in the summer heat, and it kept my goggles clear. I'd imagine it would be just as effective in cold weather.
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fatpossum is right. We make FogTech. And I feel for you riding in those low temps. FogTech is made for people who must have clear vision for their sport or at work. It is not meant for your bathroom mirror...it works but it is too expensive. It was developed specifically for plastic or coated lenses which all too often reject other anti-fogs.

Some guys at British Petroleum have tested FogTech on goggles down to -35 F with good enough results that they have bought 4,000 packets so far. I personally tested it on several sets of goggles, a motorcycle helmet and sunglasses in a blast freezer at -20 F with no fogging. I had to stop after my boots froze to the floor and I walked out of them.

But everyone's equipment is different, your weather is different and you sweat and breathe differently than your buddy. That's why his fogging solution may not work for you. I can spit on my diving mask and never have fogging problems. My wife needs FogTech. (She refuses to let me spit in her mask, silly girl.)

If anyone wants to test FogTech on your specific equipment, shoot me an email with your shipping address and I will send you two packets, no charge. Once you cycle with it, email me with what you used it on, what the conditions were like and if it cleared your fogging and how long it lasted and post those results here if that's OK with the moderators. gene@motosolutions.com

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Couple quick questions :

About how long does FogTech usually last? Does temp affect the longevity? (it's going to probably avg about 20 below this winter for me, I just have this bad feeling about it - I saw Geese flying south this morning, and it's August for chrissake) What sort of price per application on a pair of goggles? Shipping?

I just don't want to try something twice, find out it's perfect, then find out I need a different soloution because I can't afford it...

Thanks for any info. It sounds like a really cool product...
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I guess it depends on how much you actually need to use it. I've still got the same 30mL bottle that i bought in the spring, but i haven't really needed to use the stuff that much. If i remember correctly, it cost me about 15 bucks, and the bottle isnt really that big (30 mL, as i said before). The company's website claims that one application gets you about 3-5 days of use, and I've found this to be the case. However, in really humid conditions i've found that sometimes the stuff wears off more quickly, and it lasts longer when the air is dryer and cooler (keep in mind that this is on a paintball mask, i ride with contact lenses in).

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Possum is correct.

FogTech can last as long as 15 days, but 3 to 5 is about average. You should get 40 or more uses out of the bottle, so the cost is about 25 cents or so per application.

Humidity, heavy sweating, etc. will affect how long it lasts. So the harder you work, the more humid it is, etc. will shorten the life closer to the 3 days or even less. Also the type of lenses can affect the life of FogTech.

Shipping varies on where you buy it. We charge $2 for standard mail that will go anywhere in the US in about 3 to 5 days max. Outside the US is $4. And that is for any quantity.
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I'm a mouth breather. My glasses fogged up all the time in the cold weather until I used simple household canning wax on my glasses. Just a small stroke on each side and rub it in. Works great for about a week.
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