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Winter Cycling Don't let snow and ice discourage you this winter. The key element to year-round cycling is proper attire! Check out this winter cycling forum to chat with other ice bike fanatics.

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Old 10-14-08, 09:57 AM   #1
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Building a Winter Bike, 27 inch wheel frustration!

So I found this old lugged steel frame I want to convert to a Single Speed Bike for winter. Was planning on getting studded tires, as I have heard those are the best for the times where you have run-ins with ice.

But, as i recently discovered, they don't make 27" studded tires. D'OH!

So I have three options, Make do with the wheels i have, Or see if I can construct a Drop bold ala-sheldon brown, and get some 700c Wheels, OR find some road calipers long enough to reach 700c Rims on a bike that originally has 27" rims.

Well first off, Wheels aren't cheap, and i am trying to do this bike on a budget, at least for this year. So I'd prefer not to do the drop bold conversion, same goes with the Long Calipers. At least not for this year.

So that leaves me with one option really.

Winter Tire suggestions for a Southeastern Michigan Commute. Mostly Road commuting, not a lot of off-road.

There is one option I have been considering, and that is saving up some bucks and buying nicer rims for my other bike and using the 700c's on it now for the winter bike, but would prefer not to do that till spring.

Suggestions? Help?
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Old 10-14-08, 12:25 PM   #2
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Well, I rode through the whole of last winter in Saint Paul, MN. I don't have studded tires. I ride 22mi round-trip about 90% road and 10% trail. Ice was basically a non-issue for the most part. There were maybe 6-8 days out of the whole winter when there was any ice at all. The ice that I did see was always on the trail, on the shady parts of it. The most dangerous ice is in the early spring, during the nightly refreeze followed by a snowfall. Snow over ice just makes it so much more slippery. This is perhaps the only situation where the studs would really help.
Now, snow by itself was a far bigger issue. And again, on the trail because the trails don't get plowed as quickly (or at all). And I don't think studs are going to do any good in the snow. So I would suggest get a decent set of tires with good thread and give it a try. If you do go the route of 27"->700c conversion, I did this last year on my Myata and I was able to use the same brake calipers without any drop bolt. The difference between these wheel sizes is really small. I mean, your existing calipers must be already maxed out in order to for them to not be long enough for the 700's. What I did need to do is to spread the rear triangle because the 700c wheels use 130mm rear hub spacing, whereas my old 27" used something like 126.
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Old 10-14-08, 12:37 PM   #3
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Thats what I hear, is that you have to spread the triangle to get the 700c hubs in. Not a big deal, only 4mm, but still.

I'll just try the cyclocross tires I suppose
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Old 10-22-08, 07:03 PM   #4
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you have to spread the triangle to get the 700c hubs in.
Not always. Harris carries a nice, affordable 700c wheelset with a 126mm freewheel hub. This is friendly for most 12-speed bikes, and some 70s 10-speeds. I bought a set for my Motobecane to convert from 27" --> 700c.
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Old 10-23-08, 12:51 PM   #5
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I had the same delema converting my Bianchi to my winter commuter. I went with 27" Tioga Bloodhound tires and bought studded 26" MTB tires for when the roads got really ugly. The 1 3/8" (35mm) Bloodhounds fit but clearance between the tire and chainstay was tight at about 1/4" each side.


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Old 10-23-08, 01:05 PM   #6
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I had the same delema converting my Bianchi to my winter commuter. I went with 27" Tioga Bloodhound tires and bought studded 26" MTB tires for when the roads got really ugly. The 1 3/8" (35mm) Bloodhounds fit but clearance between the tire and chainstay was tight at about 1/4" each side.
Thanks for the advice!
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Old 10-24-08, 01:22 PM   #7
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I converted my Miyata to 700C primarily so that I could run studded tires this winter. For the rear wheel, I just built a new 700C wheel around the original hub. The original Dia Compe brakes had plenty of reach. You only need an addition 4mm if I remember correctly. The nice part is, it'll give you more clearance for bigger tires + fenders.

I ponied up for a decent rim and double butted spokes so it cost me around $70 but I bet I could have done it for $30 in a pinch.
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Old 10-24-08, 02:32 PM   #8
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i might be wrong on this one...but say you find a 27inch studded set. You might want to make sure that if you were to mount it, you still have clearance. IMO..i would go on craigs and find a set of 700. Then you'll be able to run big fat tires with plenty of clearance.
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