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Old 12-17-08, 04:10 PM   #1
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Studded 700x35 tires.. in stock anywhere?

OK, I've been reading recommendation after recommendation about studded tires, and after riding home on ice two days ago, I'm ready to buy.

Only problem is I can't find anything in stock anywhere reliable. On four occasions in two days, I have ordered, only to get an email later saying they don't have them.

I want, in order of preference:
  1. Nokian Hakkapelitta 106 700x35
  2. Schwalbe Marathon Winter 700x35
  3. Kenda Klondike K1014 700x35

Not sure about that third one. Haven't seen enough review. The first two simply aren't available and I don't know if it's temporary or what.

Shame on me for not doing this two months ago.

FWIW, I want the 'smoothest' rolling tires available. Don't need knobbies or other heavy duty models. The worst conditions I'll encounter are light icy conditions and/or very light snow. A dusting to an inch or so. Roads I ride on are usually treated very well and it's only the spotty areas that get missed or when things get bad before the crews get out.

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Bit more information: My rims are Alexrims AT400 that came stock on a Raleigh Oneway. Rim width is 14mm. There are stock 700x35C on it now, which I think is about the limit for such a narrow rim. Sheldon Brown chart shows 32C as being the largest so I'm already outside that. Doubt I could go 40C... anybody know different?
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Bit more information: My rims are Alexrims AT400 that came stock on a Raleigh Oneway. Rim width is 14mm. There are stock 700x35C on it now, which I think is about the limit for such a narrow rim. Sheldon Brown chart shows 32C as being the largest so I'm already outside that. Doubt I could go 40C... anybody know different?
Try http://www.everybicycletire.com They had a bunch of different studded ties in all shapes and sizes. Or http://www.biketiresdirect.com which had an even larger selection of studded tires...some as low as 29.95

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Old 12-17-08, 04:35 PM   #4
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I have had my 700x35 Kenda Klondikes on my One-Way...so no worries there.
My Kenda Klondikes are on their third winter...I like them. They roll better than the Nokians (have never tried the Schwalbes) on dry pavement, do an adequate job when it's slicker than cow slobber and the studs wear well.

This guy seems to have 3 of them on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Kenda-Klondike-K...QQcmdZViewItem
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I have had my 700x35 Kenda Klondikes on my One-Way...so no worries there.
My Kenda Klondikes are on their third winter...I like them. They roll better than the Nokians (have never tried the Schwalbes) on dry pavement, do an adequate job when it's slicker than cow slobber and the studs wear well.
Good to know.. I seem to be able to find those. May be the solution, especially if they roll better.

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This guy seems to have 3 of them on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Kenda-Klondike-K...QQcmdZViewItem
Nope.. that's one of the places I tried, only to be told later they weren't in stock. Said they would be after Xmas, but after the last two days, I gotta get these things on the rims.
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Nokian W106, got mine last week from Peter White Cycles
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/studdedtires.asp
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Peter White is out of the 700x35 Schwalbe Marathon Winters until January.

It's a good idea to get these things early. I bought most of my winter kit, including tires, in early fall.
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I ordered a pair of the Kendas from Niagara. Since I've never tried anything else except skating around on slicks, I have nowhere to go but up (or rather... NOT go down!)
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It's a good idea to get these things early. I bought most of my winter kit, including tires, in early fall.
Yep.. that's why I said shame on me. Especially when the cold temps came six weeks early and stayed.
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Bicycle Village in Boulder has one pair of the Nokian 700x35 106's on the tire rack tonight. Call them and see if they will ship them to you.

Here's the phone number on their website 303-440-8525 and they are open till 8 MST M-F
http://bicyclevillage.com/page.cfm?PageID=214

Oops, Winter hours are till 7 MST. They had them at 5:30 tonight.

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You could try here, too:
http://www.bicycletires.com/bicycle_tires.asp#
I've had great service from them in the past.
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Old 12-17-08, 08:47 PM   #12
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Everyone says many / most of the popular Nokian & Schwalbe tires are on back order until 2009.
Has winter riding increased in popularity? or did the manufacturers mis-calculate demand?
Or some other reason?
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Looks like the Schwalbe Marathon winter are back in stock at http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...ducts_id=20938

For one thing it seemed places sold out recently.

I checked a week and a half ago and found ones in stock at aebike, treefortbike, and biketiresdirect for $40.

A few days ago I checked and aebike and treefortbike were sold out. biketiresdirect price was raised to $45. The next day I tried to place an order at biketiresdiret, but they would not add to cart. Later it showed they were sold out.

I just cannot spend $50+ on a new pair of tires now, when I just had to buy a regular set to replace my old ones at $30 each. So far the weather is not too bad, and I am going to keep checking the other sites to see if they come back in stock.
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Rolling resistance?

Looks like you got what you are looking for, but just a heads up, you should look at the A10's from Nokian. You remarked that you were looking for a lower rolling resistance which these have the lowest of the studded tires do to the fact of where they place the studs (more on the sides vs on the center of the tread). They also have a slightly lesser tread too. I own the 40's and love them. As for the issue of the size of the tire on your rim, I cannot speak to that personally, but I can tell you I had 37's on a pair of Ksyriums for a few weeks while I got new rims during the summer and had no problems.

Lastly, if anyone else is looking I can get you a pair of these for cheap (Nokian A10's). Probably around $40.00 each. Let me know. Would ship out of Buffalo NY.

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I just got my tires Tuesday, just in time for a snow storm that left the roads pretty slick. Since I had put it off for so long, my options were limited. I originally went in early November and talked about getting a pair of Nokian w106s, but put it off until last week. When I e-mailed the shop to see if they had any in stock, all they had was a single, used, w106 and was told they wouldn't be able to get more of the Nokians until after the New Year.

I ended up getting the "used" Nokian since the price was right and it still had the whiskers on it and everything. I also ordered a Kenda Klondike K1014. They had no problem getting the Kenda, so you might talk to a local shop about getting a pair. They are more expensive and from what I read don't wear as well as the Nokians, but I think ultimately the price difference is less than the cost of a copay after you go down and fracture your wrist trying to catch yourself or something.
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Everyone says many / most of the popular Nokian & Schwalbe tires are on back order until 2009.
Has winter riding increased in popularity? or did the manufacturers mis-calculate demand?
Or some other reason?
In my area, the winter ridership has certainly increased by a factor of few. After some number of snow days, I would normally be alone on most of my route. This year, I regularly see several tracks in spite of the persistence of snow. Besides the route tracks, I see riders here and there around the town, which normally would not be there at this stage of winter.

Otherwise, shortages of selected studded tires occurred in the past. Those tires are expensive and demand is naturally lower than for the standard tires. In my experience, more expensive products earn low markups, since otherwise customers would be pushed away.
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