Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Winter Cycling Don't let snow and ice discourage you this winter. The key element to year-round cycling is proper attire! Check out this winter cycling forum to chat with other ice bike fanatics.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-27-08, 07:12 PM   #1
127.0.0.1
50000 Guatts of power
Thread Starter
 
127.0.0.1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 1,001
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
so who has Elite Nanogelite bottles ?

I have a pair coming...should be here Jan 2

I use 2 Polarbottles, but those things will still freeze up before I am done riding
when it is 20 deg out. they start so hot they practically melt and are stiff as
a board in 1 hour...and freeze in 2 hours...gonna test the Elite and see if they are better.

since the Elite uses aerogel, [and I am blown away by the performance of
toasty feets]....I reckon the elite bottle will blow away the polar bottle
by a large margin


they had better, because 1) they are expensive and 2) don't hold a lot



I will go for some rides with each bottle at same starting temp and post my results

Last edited by 127.0.0.1; 12-27-08 at 07:16 PM.
127.0.0.1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-08, 02:57 PM   #2
modernjess
ride for a change
 
modernjess's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Bikes: Surly Cross-check & Moonlander, Pivot Mach 429, Ted Wojcik Sof-Trac, Ridley Orion. Santa Cruz Stigmata
Posts: 2,225
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Those look very promising for year round use. Please post a follow up review or something once you've had a chance to test them out.

The toasty feet are great. The aerogel seems to have huge potential, this seems like a perfect application.

Winter SPD boots lined with aerogel would be my next request.
modernjess is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-09, 01:48 PM   #3
127.0.0.1
50000 Guatts of power
Thread Starter
 
127.0.0.1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 1,001
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
ok,

so they have arrived. I haven't tested them yet but:

they have a large many-threaded screw cap further isolating the top, so the
top is less likely to freeze vs a polar bottle


it has an inner layer like a polar bottle, but instead of foil inside,
it has aerogel granules, loose. you can shake the bottle and see the
grains of aerogel.


temperature performance test tonight. one polar bottle vs one nanogelite,
one sip each for the duration of the ride (prob 3 hours) and see what happens

yesterday both my polar bottles froze to slush in 2 hours.



oh yeah of course these are squeeze bottles and are advertised as such, but damn you
need f'n gorilla grip to squeeze them....

Last edited by 127.0.0.1; 01-02-09 at 01:55 PM.
127.0.0.1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-09, 04:37 PM   #4
pmt
Experienced
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 1,017
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
I got actual metal thermos-type bottles that fit in a regular water bottle cage, and have a pop top like a regular water bottle. My drink is still hot at the end of a 1.5 hr ride even at 15 deg F. Just Google around to find them; there's several makers.
pmt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-09, 04:20 PM   #5
127.0.0.1
50000 Guatts of power
Thread Starter
 
127.0.0.1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 1,001
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
ok the results are in



elite nanogelite easily last twice as long as polar bottles.

filled them with really warm gatorade...then hit the trail

I did 2, 4 hour rides, and compared temps and gosh golly gee when
the polar was dispensing cold, the elite was still warm. 1 hour later the
elite was just cool, and the polar was ice cold but not icy

got home, ice chips in the polar, none in the elite, and it was cold
but not ice cold


elite bottles are the new standard in thermo plastic bike bottles, worth
the price (ummm, maybe, they still cost a crapload of $$)
127.0.0.1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-09, 05:37 PM   #6
2_i 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan
Bikes: Trek 730, Bike Friday NWT, Brompton M6R*2, Trek 830, Trek 720, Dahon HAT060, Dahon HT060,...
Posts: 1,581
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Elite Bottles??

Elite bottles are an expensive junk. See:

Bike Tea

for some systematic evaluation.
2_i is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-09, 07:18 PM   #7
127.0.0.1
50000 Guatts of power
Thread Starter
 
127.0.0.1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 1,001
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2_i View Post
Elite bottles are an expensive junk. See:

Bike Tea

for some systematic evaluation.

sorry, chumley, you fail hard multiple ways

-that page is not reviewing the elite nanogelite bottle. I am.
he is comparing insulated to vacuum bottles and vacuum to vacuum.
I am comparing insulated to insulated bottles,

oh and btw none of the insulated bottles listed there use aerogel,
which is way better than any other insulation...just so ya know


-I don't drink tea, I use energy drinks, because you know, I ride

-I am comparing bottles you open with your teeth. bicycling bottles you
do not have to stop and twist some top off to get a drink. who the hell
wants to stop riding for anything ? I sure don't, and don't want to stop to
drink

-all I care about is my drink going to ice before I am done riding. I don't care
about hot. I care about slush clogs.


-I am comparing the elite to polar. not stainless steel craptacular thermos things.
you see polar bottles for sale everywhere and that is all most riders know about.
well the elite nanogelite is far better than the polar at keeping warm things warm and
cold things cold, in the land of plastic bottles and bite/mouthpiece.


IF I was gonna ride past 5 hours in winter then i would lather all up with stainless steel
thermoses,
but srsly, this is about yer common bike ride with twin bottle cages riding
approx 4 hours or less when it is 10 degrees-to-30 degrees. and a beverage
with 60g carb/hour energy content being available just like it is in summer.
flowing from a plastic bottle


can I make it clearer ?


-if you are gonna rag on the elite nanogelite by throwing a completely unrelated web page link
up in my thread, then stay the heck out,

go get some real info, like I did just now by -riding with the bottles in the cold-

Last edited by 127.0.0.1; 01-03-09 at 10:12 PM.
127.0.0.1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-09, 07:27 PM   #8
2_i 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan
Bikes: Trek 730, Bike Friday NWT, Brompton M6R*2, Trek 830, Trek 720, Dahon HAT060, Dahon HT060,...
Posts: 1,581
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
sorry, chumley, you fail hard multiple ways

can I make it clearer ?
--
2_i is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-09, 08:14 PM   #9
fghhunter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: minnesnowta
Bikes:
Posts: 95
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The question was "who has Elite Nanogelite bottles"?

could you answer the question please.
fghhunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-09, 09:57 AM   #10
Eclectus
Senior Member
 
Eclectus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kansas
Bikes: Cervelo RS, Specialized Stumpy, Schwinn 974
Posts: 1,875
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
ebikestop.com sells them for $24.95
Eclectus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-09, 01:18 PM   #11
bdcheung
Carpe Diem
 
bdcheung's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: MABRA
Bikes: 2007 CAAD9; 2014 CAADX; PedalForce CG1
Posts: 13,149
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Sorry to bump the thread but I just found out about these bottles and was hoping the OP had some more long-term opinions.
__________________
"When you are chewing the bars at the business end of a 90 mile road race you really dont care what gear you have hanging from your bike so long as it works."
ΛΧΑ ΔΞ179 - 15% off your first Hammer Nutrition order!
bdcheung is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-09, 10:33 AM   #12
127.0.0.1
50000 Guatts of power
Thread Starter
 
127.0.0.1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 1,001
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
they work great at keeping my gatorade mix from freezing on 3 hour rides in winter
when other insulated bottles have long since iced up. I haven't had any ice build
up in them. they are weird and hard to squeeze, and the gel settles a bit (but it doesn't seem to affect them)
127.0.0.1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:11 PM.