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Old 01-14-09, 08:46 PM   #1
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Snow bike weight

My bike comes in at 13 Kilos. That is around 28.6 Lbs. (My Fair weather bikes are 9 and 7Kg.)
Some of the pictures I have seen in this forum are bikes that must come close to twice that weight.
They have racks, panniers, etc. Some even have more lights than a monster truck.
Good for you. That must be one extreme work out.

I may be thinking wrong as my riding is for training. My average speed on the winter bike is 23Kph. That includes the time I stop for water or to scrape the snow off my brakes or feet or...
My endurance and speed will be much better this spring. This winter riding is doing great things for my fitness. Three weeks and I can notice the effect already.

My Questions are.
How Heavy are these bikes?
What is your average speed?
What is your average distance.
What is your average ride time? (My toes decide this for me)
What is your heart rate?
What the heck throw in any other performance data you can think of.

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Old 01-14-09, 09:33 PM   #2
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my winter ride is heavy. its a tank. im running minimal accesories. a lot of weight on the rear does make traction a lot better though. this time of year i'm lucky if i can hit 15 mph in decent conditions. usually my speed is a little more than half of that. i've been running my psi around 20-25pounds just so i get decent traction, that slows me down a lot, especially with the studs.

riding around for fun has been a luxury. i only do it when it gets warm enough or if i have time off of work. when i did my favorite ride my best time was 40 minutes for about a 12 mile ride, almost twice my summer time on that route.

i ride about 5 miles per day commuting

im not worried about performance or speed its simply about getting from point A to point B.

summer is different for me but winter is about survival.

overall i like riding my 25 pound tank, i don't have to worry about the brakes because they are disc, i don't have to worry about shifting because it has one gear. all i have to worry about is my self. the bike takes care of the rest.
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Old 01-14-09, 09:44 PM   #3
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Haha. My tank weighed 35 lbs before I added the fenders and studded Marathons. Could have something to do with the hi-tensile frame or the steel rear rim. The temperature dropped to something like -30 C this morning and my derailleurs froze in a 40x28 gear; I think my next winter bike is going to be a fixed gear.
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I honestly wouldnt be surprised if my bike was half the weight of me, however, i have a motor on it as well. even with the motor it takes longer to get anywhere in the winter, and i usually load it up with all my school books. im not sure how fast i go, as my speedometer needs a new battery, and i am too cheap to replace it right now. but i travel 10-11km to school every day.and it takes me between 30-45 min on good days.
are you just doing endurance training? or strength training? what is your current heart rate, and your target heart rate?
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Pre studded tires, mine came in at 28 lbs without a water bottle. This is a 2008 K2 Enemy cyclocross bike with fenders, and a 30 watt Trail-tech HID light, and a saddle pack. The pack I put on is now slightly bigger so I'm pretty sure its pretty close to 30 lbs. My race bike for refrence is around 17lbs

Right now, average distance 23 miles or so some times longer including a few 45 miles rides
Average speed ~14 mph on studs (keep in mind, I'm always on at least hardpack snow. I don't remember what pavement is), 16-17 on cyclocross knobbies on semi ok pavement
Average HR is between 145ish-160 although it looks like a median for my rides is mid 150's

Can't wait for spring.

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The bicycle started for fitness. It then became an obsession. Then it became a money pit.
Junker bike to a decent road bike to a fantastically smooth and very fast carbon road bike. Then came the winter bike. Bike, tires, seat etc.

At 48 years I can get to 188bpm in the hills. When on my long training rides I try to not go below 160.
In the snow I am running and average of 170. I ride about 1 hour or 1 1/2 hours in the snow. My toes decide for me.

Endurance riding I like best. I would like to get my speed to average 32Kph for a hilly century at the end of this year.
Strength training is part of my routine. Not bulky but better. This may cost me some speed but other sports benefit.
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heavy. The tyres are heavy, the frame itself is heavy and the accessories are heavy. if it's not hitting at least 15kg you're under equipped.
average speed is useless since this depends on how clean the road is... if any pavement can be seen at all. and the shoveling and plowing is never uniform.

it takes roughly 3~4hrs for a 50km ride on unplowed roads with slightly poor equipment choice.
by poor equipment choice I mean tyres that are not fat enough and fenders that allow snow-ice build up.
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I've been riding two different bikes this winter and might switch to a 3rd before it's all done. If I don't get to it this year, I will next year.

Given that, it's hard to know what the weight is going to work out to be. The rolling resistance of studded tires at low psi slows me down much more than the weight of the bike so I'm too worried about it.
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How Heavy are these bikes?
- Commuter bike is about 40 Lbs (including rack, fenders, generator hub, and lights). Then I use a handlebar bag for all me critical tool, a food snack, wallet, phone, some maps so add an extra 5 Lbs. On the rear I have a set of saddle bags that are loaded with extra foul weather gear (rain pants, rain coat, shoe covers, etc). Then I carry 2 bottles of water, a can of pepsi, a thermos of with milk, a sandwich, 2 pieces of fruit, and a 1/2 lbs of carrots as my daily food, and every few days I'll bring in a few extra clean dress shirts. All together my bike weighs about 65 Lbs when fully loaded for commuting.

- Road bike about 19 Lbs. I'll take the handlebar bag with me to carry all my essentials so total weight including two water bottles (I never leave the house for a ride without those) is around 26 Lbs

What is your average speed?
- On my commuter I'll average around 15 to 16 mph on my 5 mile commute in summer on slicks
- On the same commute I'll average around 12 to 14 mph on the same commute with Nokia W106 tires (there also tends to be more wind in the winter so that is a double whammy when you include the noticable resistance from the winter tires)
- On my road bike I can easily ride around 18 to 19 MPH on the same commute. If I am running in my club ride I usually average around 20 to 21 mph, but then I am not carrying a bunch of cloths and extra gear with me. Also, riding in a pack helps a lot for motivation and aerodynamic bennefits.

What is your average distance.
- 5 miles each way for commuting year round
- 25 mile club ride once a week during the Spring through Fall
- I also will add some regular longer trips but those are not fixed weekly events

What is your average ride time? (My toes decide this for me)
- Commute is around 20 to 25 minutes each way
- I had to ride to a remote office last week. The temps started around 15 and finished up to a high of 22. It was miles round trip. The roads were clear and the sun was shining... it was a glorious day!

What is your heart rate?
- Don't know... I don't have a heart rate monitor

What the heck throw in any other performance data you can think of.
- I'll add that I definitely ride a lot slower in the snow. There is no way I'll be riding hard to get my maxium workout when the roads are slippery. Getting home safely is the main consern and going around corners for instance is done carefuly. I have no problems with light snow, etc, but you just need to focus more on staying upright and being much more aware of your surroundings and what the road conditions will be like up ahead.

Happy riding,
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My winter bike must be at least 35 pounds with the studded tires. Rolling resistance is much greater too.

I can't wait for the first ride of spring on 15 pound lighter bike and 23c tires.
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Now that people have made a few guesses as to the weight of their bike.
Why not get the bathroom scales out and find out for sure?
Just weigh yourself, then yourself and the bike. Do the math...
I think a lot of people are going to be surprised.
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Why not get the bathroom scales out and find out for sure?
I'd have to buy a bathroom scale, and get an apartment with a bigger bathroom to keep the thing in.

Will my LBS's scale be okay?

My '06 Trek Portland commuting rig (56cm frame) was 23.1 pounds in showroom trim. In commuting gear, it's 25.3 pounds. My Nokian W106s are 600 grams each heavier than my three-season tires, so add 2.65 pounds for a total of 27.95 before water bottles, trunk bag (stuff in the trunk bag) and me.

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Old 01-16-09, 09:01 AM   #13
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ya....i would have to buy one as well
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