Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 20 of 20
  1. #1
    my nose itches starla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Temple, Texas
    My Bikes
    1986 Specialized Stumpjumper, 2013 Redline Conquest Disc
    Posts
    583
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Am I doomed to sit out the winter months?

    I want to commute year round. I *really* do. It doesn't get that cold here compared to a lot of places. But the wind kills my throat. I mean makes it raw, throbbing, and painful. The colder it gets, the worse it gets. I want to HTFU. But it hurts to the point that riding is nearly impossible, and certainly I don't derive any pleasure from it. Any suggestions?

  2. #2
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    39,868
    Mentioned
    42 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    1) Lozenges. Pop a lozenge into your mouth just before you go out.

    2) Ride slower. Ride so you can breathe comfortably through your nose a good portion of the time.

    3) Neck gaiter. Wear a neck gaiter around your neck, and bring it up over your mouth when riding into the wind.

    4) Spend more time outside and get used to the temperature and the wind.

  3. #3
    Senior Member nwmtnbkr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    1,054
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Are you dressing appropriately to keep warm? Keep your throat covered. If possible, try not to breath through you mouth. I'm not sure how cold it gets there (I'm west of Glacier National Park and when I see Texas winter-time temps they look down right tropical to me) but you could give some thoughts to wearing a balaclava on really cold days. Most importantly, if you really don't feel like riding in the winter, don't beat yourself up. Winter riding is not for everyone.

  4. #4
    Subjectively Insane MilitantPotato's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Saint Louis, Missouri
    My Bikes
    '09 Rodriguez Adventurer Custom, '08 Trek 7.3Fx
    Posts
    804
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    http://www.psolar.com/id5.html
    There's other brands around, they all collect heat and humidity in the mouth piece to pre-heat/humidify incoming air.

    I hear they're a little tough to breath through, so a second regular balaclava might be a good idea for warmer days, unless you buy one that has a removable pre-warmer doohicky.
    But like Machka said, people ride/run/hike in well bellow sub zero temps, it's something you build a tolerance for by riding into the winter, normally.

    Wait, you're in texas? Do they have winters down there?
    Last edited by MilitantPotato; 09-14-09 at 08:07 PM.
    You've got a bike, so you gotta move.

  5. #5
    my nose itches starla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Temple, Texas
    My Bikes
    1986 Specialized Stumpjumper, 2013 Redline Conquest Disc
    Posts
    583
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by MilitantPotato View Post

    Wait, you're in texas? Do they have winters down there?
    Haha It may get down to the teens for a week or so here.

    It's not the cold that's really the problem. After doing some research and talking to some other people, I think I'm going to pay the doctor a visit about exercise induced asthma. It's low 70s today and even riding tonight against a 11 mph wind, my throat was really starting to hurt. It was a short ride, and I rode hard, but even now when I swallow my throat hurts and I've got lots of mucus. I'm not to the point of coughing yet tonight but last year I coughed frequently as the temps dropped. I never considered it might be a medical condition. Just thought I hadn't acclimated enough.

  6. #6
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    39,868
    Mentioned
    42 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    OK, low 70s isn't cold ... it's not even cool. It's actually quite warm ... warmer than room temperature. And an 11 mph wind is not that windy either.

    Have you tried using something like a lozenge or an antihistamine before going out?

  7. #7
    my nose itches starla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Temple, Texas
    My Bikes
    1986 Specialized Stumpjumper, 2013 Redline Conquest Disc
    Posts
    583
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    OK, low 70s isn't cold ... it's not even cool. It's actually quite warm ... warmer than room temperature. And an 11 mph wind is not that windy either.

    Have you tried using something like a lozenge or an antihistamine before going out?
    I agree completely. It's just the coldest it's been this season. I was extremely frustrated that my throat was already starting to hurt because it's only going to get cooler and I don't want to quit riding. I'll give your suggestions a try...thanks!

  8. #8
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    39,868
    Mentioned
    42 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by starla View Post
    I agree completely. It's just the coldest it's been this season. I was extremely frustrated that my throat was already starting to hurt because it's only going to get cooler and I don't want to quit riding. I'll give your suggestions a try...thanks!
    But do go and have it checked if you really think it is EIA. I have gone through the lung tests and have been diagnosed with EIA, so I have an inhaler.

  9. #9
    Subjectively Insane MilitantPotato's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Saint Louis, Missouri
    My Bikes
    '09 Rodriguez Adventurer Custom, '08 Trek 7.3Fx
    Posts
    804
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    EN&T Doc time.

    I get excruciating pain in my esophagus and upper chest sometimes if I ride hard in cool weather after lots of down time, lasts for several days after the ride. Hurts to breath in deep, swallow, eating food is pretty rough.

    If I don't mouth breath, and ride more frequently in the cold, the less it happens, so I never went to a doc. This was around 30-35F though, 70F is really warm.
    You've got a bike, so you gotta move.

  10. #10
    Senior Member nwmtnbkr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    1,054
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Starla,

    Could be allergies, nasal polyps, chronic sinusitis or a combination of those, too. I had severe asthma from infancy through part of grade school and was bed-ridden a lot. Fortunately, I outgrew it, but I remember how it felt not being able to get a good breath of air. I think you'd have breathing issues as well as a sore throat with asthma. Are you wheezing and short of breath, too?

  11. #11
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    39,868
    Mentioned
    42 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The thing that finally sent me to the Dr with my EIA was not being able to breathe. I'd go out on a ride, push it a bit, start coughing, start wheezing and hyperventilating, and would then feel like I was drowning ... I couldn't get air in. The first few times it happened, stopping by the side of the road and focussing on exhaling helped ... but then it started happening more frequently. It was really scary.

    Prior to it getting to that point, however, I'd come in after a cool-cold ride and cough and cough and cough and cough for hours. Apparently that's the early stages of EIA. I don't ever remember there being a sore throat though.

  12. #12
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    39,868
    Mentioned
    42 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    starla, you do drink regularly when you ride, right? I'm assuming you would, but thought I'd ask because drinking regularly wets my throat and helps prevent it from getting sore.

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    202
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Balaklava is your friend...

  14. #14
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    39,868
    Mentioned
    42 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by turbo2L View Post
    Balaklava is your friend...
    At 70F? I'm cold when I ride, and I don't bring out the balaclava until the temp drops below freezing.

  15. #15
    my nose itches starla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Temple, Texas
    My Bikes
    1986 Specialized Stumpjumper, 2013 Redline Conquest Disc
    Posts
    583
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    starla, you do drink regularly when you ride, right? I'm assuming you would, but thought I'd ask because drinking regularly wets my throat and helps prevent it from getting sore.
    Admittedly, this is something I'm bad about, but have been working on. I'm trying to drink water both before and during rides.

  16. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    1,629
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Could be a reaction to polluted air also. How is the air in Temple Texas. Are there any large industries emitting stuff. If the air is bad you might consider driving a ways out of town to ride and see if you have the same problems. I really think that it is likely to be an allergy or asthma type of problem.

    Could also be a detoxification process if you haven't done any exercise before. And this could be setting off asthma or an allergy. I started riding a bike when I was in bad condition and often had what you describe. It went away after I started to get in better condition but it took some time.

    Part of it can just be from breathing hard in and out. When you start breathing hard the air goes in and out a lot faster and can irritate sensitive air passages which are not used to it. If you have asthma this can set it off. You can also try keeping your neck a little warmer than most people have to and see if it helps. Try wearing a polyester ski turtleneck under your jersey and keep your whole upper body a little warmer and see if that helps.
    Last edited by Hezz; 09-15-09 at 06:15 PM.

  17. #17
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    39,868
    Mentioned
    42 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by starla View Post
    Admittedly, this is something I'm bad about, but have been working on. I'm trying to drink water both before and during rides.
    They recommend drinking one 750 ml bottle of water and/or sports drink every 1 to 1.5 hours while you are riding. When your mouth/throat starts to feel dry, take a drink.

  18. #18
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Calgary, Alberta
    Posts
    679
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I regularly ride at hundreds of degrees colder in the winter (I might exaggerate a tiny bit once in awhile, but hey, it's a literary gift) and have never had a problem with a sore throat, so it probably is worth talking to a doctor. I'd guess that something else is involved.

    And I did want to ask about the quote in your sig. Is that an actual John Lennon quote, not something a humorist worked over? I really do like it if it is.

    best wishes, lloyd
    mainlytext.com/bike.html Bicycling in winter, the entertainment version

  19. #19
    rep
    rep is offline
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    86
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I was also thinking about air pollution. There is a lot of talk these days about exercise induced asthma, which is rather blaming the victim for a normal response to air pollution. In the summer, you get a sore throat from ozone plus fine particulate. In cooler weather, ozone is down but particulate is even higher. Your area should have a website with Pollution forecasts. Try a pollution mask, like from Respro http://www.respro.com/ , which contains carbon adsorbent. I did a few tests (I'm an atmospheric chemist) on various devices. Bandana over the mouth helps a little, fleece quite a bit more. Paper face masks, like for painting, are no better than a bandana. A NIOSH N95 type is better, but in cold weather clogs with condensation. I would not count your temps as cold, so this might be good enough. The Respro is made for cyclists in polluted areas, but also costs the most. So I would try the N95 for a first trial. They are plentiful these days due to swine flu fears.

  20. #20
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    39,868
    Mentioned
    42 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by rep View Post
    There is a lot of talk these days about exercise induced asthma, which is rather blaming the victim for a normal response to air pollution.
    Except I've been diagnosed with EIA after living and cycling in areas with minimal air polution. It really has nothing to do with polution ... and more to do with humidity and temperature.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •