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    What to carry to melt frozen parts?

    This week I had two situations - front brake frozen and then a lock frozen. I could carry a lighter, or buy coffe to pour on things, but I'd prefer a small battery operated heat ***. It doesn't have to be that hot right?

    What do you do?

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    They make small butane torches made for soldering. Pocket size but you have to be careful with them. Don't put anything painted or plastic in the direct flame. You can put steel into the flame for faster heating. I would not use coffee to thaw stuff. It will only gum things up worse in the future. Carry a thermos of hot water with you if you only have to go a short distance. The torch works better because it will dry things out. Brake cables shouldn't freeze unless they are full of dirt and water. If you clean your bike off and knock the water off every day and let it dry inside you will rarely have the freezing problems.

    Also, if you only ride a short distance on the flat and weight is not an issue a propane torch is the bomb for heating things. Probably weights about 3 pounds though. But makes bigger flame and the larger tank will last a lot longer. But you do need to keep sensitive things far enough away from the flame to not melt or burn them.

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    i put anti-seize on pretty much all the moving parts and cables when i built my bike for winter riding. so far so good. brakes and shifters have not froze yet and it is stored outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bat56 View Post
    What do you do?
    I keep my gear oiled and greased, so that it doesn't freeze in the first place. The fall overhaul goes a long way towards preventing frozen components. If your ride does freeze, using any hot water solution (like coffee) is only a very temporary fix. I've used coffee to remove ice and snow from my cassette, and within minutes the cassette was packed solid again.

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    When my Alfine hub froze up in one gear I made a long waterbottle to wrap around the hub shell.
    Take one inner tube. Seal the end ortleib-style with a zip-tie or chord. Pour in hot water, leaving the top 10" free. Remove any air and seal up the top.
    Wrap around hub shell.
    This heated the grease enough to change gears. Time to replace with oil.

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    Am I the only one thinking firewood and a down jacket?

    Those cover the parts I have problems with freezing.

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    the best stuff to carry to would probably be wd-40.

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    there is more than one way to 'melt' frozen parts.
    One way it to heat it, but the other way is to lower the boiling temperature of the compound itself.

    you can try some high concentration drinking alcohol. 5% will still freeze at about -1C, but 95% will not freeze until about -110C.
    After which you would still want to flush out the system with some light oil
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    you can try some high concentration drinking alcohol.
    I used to like Yukon Jack in a rocks glass full of snow. Not sure I'd pour it on my brakes.
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    Why you wasting that coffee, drink all of it, because there is another reason God gave you a wiener - to urinate on innocent objects! He foresaw everything.

    Oh and maybe a bit of this,

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    I'm liking the alcohol idea.

    I really want a 120 degree blow torch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bat56 View Post
    ...What do you do?
    Nothing here as I rarely ride in real freezing temps in Mid TN. If you can take a can of ether in your tool-kit it'll unfreeze the parts pretty well I would think. Having grown up in Cleveland, OH I used to use ether in my carburetor during winter mornings when needed. But, a good cleaning and consistant maintenance will go along way to prevent freeze up as well.

    Liking the idea of anti-seize material. I've got an aluminum frame and I use anti-seize on all the theaded parts, especially the bb. Never thought about the cables, etc. Look through the posts and pick one or a combo of solutions...but don't waste good whiskey!!

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    Buy some rubbing alcohol, the 99% sort. That's pretty much what lock deicer is. Put it in a spray bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsl View Post
    I used to like Yukon Jack in a rocks glass full of snow. Not sure I'd pour it on my brakes.
    or any of the following will work too.

    isopropanol (rubbing alcohol, toxic)
    ethylene glycol (anti-freeze, toxic)
    propylene glycol (Generally Recognized As Safe)
    ethanol (drinking alcohol, GRAS)
    glycerol (GRAS)
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bat56 View Post
    I'm liking the alcohol idea.

    I really want a 120 degree blow torch.
    There you go !! Pour on some alcohol and light it with the blow torch.

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    You can always Pee on stuff, its warm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    You can always Pee on stuff, its warm.
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    Before you go out, spray parts that tend to freeze with Pam. Snow and crap won't stick as much making freezing less likely.


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    My cassette clogged up this past weekend and sandy slush. What a mess could hardly keep going part of the time. Still working on the best solution though. I do spray liberally with the WD-40 before a ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesdak View Post
    My cassette clogged up this past weekend and sandy slush. What a mess could hardly keep going part of the time. Still working on the best solution though. I do spray liberally with the WD-40 before a ride.
    clogged from sandy slush?

    you might want to try a cassette built with mud clearing in mind. Lots of holes for the mixture to move before packing up the cogs.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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