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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterKat
    What are these?
    Totes rubbers are rubber waterproof shoe covers that zip over your existing shoe. made of just strong natural rubber

    theyre ment to cover the dress shoes of the working class, but work just as fine for cyclists. if you clip in, then you would need to slice a round hole on the bottom of them.
    Totes is the company. London Fog, is theire sister company i think...
    been around for a long time, but many cyclists dont think of wearing these.

    i have and they work.
    they cost around 5$-10$ a pair
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    Quote Originally Posted by -=solewheelin
    Totes rubbers are rubber waterproof shoe covers that zip over your existing shoe. made of just strong natural rubber

    theyre ment to cover the dress shoes of the working class, but work just as fine for cyclists. if you clip in, then you would need to slice a round hole on the bottom of them.
    Totes is the company. London Fog, is theire sister company i think...
    been around for a long time, but many cyclists dont think of wearing these.

    i have and they work.
    they cost around 5$-10$ a pair
    -=steve
    hmmm sounds better than the neoprene shoe covers... do the bottoms wear out from walking on them? So do you leave the Totes on the shoe the whole winter?
    Last edited by vrkelley; 10-31-04 at 11:33 AM. Reason: clarify

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    Quote Originally Posted by vrkelley
    hmmm sounds better than the neoprene shoe covers... do the bottoms wear out from walking on them? So do you leave the Totes on the shoe the whole winter?
    no they slip off, and have a side zipper.
    you can usually only find them in shoe stores. buy the bigger size.

    the natural rubber is strong, and im on my 3rd winter with them... it really depends on how much walking you do. . say if your a messinger its different. surprising youve never heard of them.....
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    http://www.packinglight.net/plight/p...dp_id=&dl_id=&

    if you google bike forums there are discussions on them

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    Just an update:
    This morning was 29F: Here's what's working.

    Head
    A. I took double sided-tape and made a fleece liner for the inside of the helmet.
    B. Then I made a Helmet cover with reflectant Scotchlite to block the dang holes.
    C. Headband

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    Wicking duoFold shirt

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    Microfiber sock, Seal Skin (off-brand), Coffee Filter Baggies

    The 1st 8miles were toasty, after that...major sweating, head, and arms...but NO frost bite toes. It's a start...Thanks eveyone for the helpful hints both here and elsewhere. Round trip was 32Miles

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    Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

    I read the comments made on this thread looking for solutions to cold toes and I found what must have been obvious to many of you.

    Wednesday night I took my SPD pedals off of my commuter and put on some old Campy pedals with toe clips. Opening the strap to it's max allowed me to pedal while wearing my insulated low quarter shoes. That coupled with cold weather socks worked perfectly.

    What a difference, arriving at work with toasty toes instead of 10 little ice cubes.

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    Wow. I'm a big believer that everyone seems to have different needs for the cold weather, and I'm one of the ones with cold feet problems. As for other stuff, vrkelley is wearing a bunch more clothing than I am. This morning I wore a heavy Spyder ski shirt, mid-weight Marmot tights, lightweight running shorts, Smartwool hiking socks, SPD-compatible moutain biking shoes, and my full-fingered summer riding gloves. Usually I'd wear neoprene booties over the shoes in this weather but I skipped 'em this morning. My body was fine, but the feet were very cold, as is typically my problem. If I was wearing the booties, I would have been fine, and typically am fine with booties all the way down to 0 as long as I stay dry.

    When it's sub-0F, I'm pretty successful keeping my body, legs, arms, hands, and head warm, but still have trouble with my feet. On the feet: Smartwool hiking socks, wool ski socks, Sidi winter SPD shoes, neoprene boot covers. I've tried toe warmers and I'm underwhelmed so far but maybe I should try some other brands. The worst thing about them is that they seem to run out of steam about 10 minutes from home. I'm thinking about adding both a silk sock-liner under the two pairs of socks and a sock over the shoe under the bootie as it gets subzero this Winter. Does anyone else manage to keep wearing SPDs when it's way below zero? I've made it down to about -15F but I was suffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westman2003
    In the military I know guys who have worn electric socks (battery powered).

    Anyone knows where one might find electric socks? And how about electric gloves?

    I found this place for socks
    http://www.allsportsocks.com/batpowbrlecs.html (but they are currently closed)
    and this one
    http://www.thunderboltsocks.com/newproducts.htm (WAY too expensive)

    A search on elecrtic gloves turned out nothing but motorcycle gloves.

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    There's a lot of good stuff at hunting stores. Turns out hunters are one of the few groups that's odder even than us. I've never tried electric socks, but I know my local Kmart, in the hunting section, carries them. I bought neoprene/poly 'socks' (more like inside shoe liners) that are about totally waterproof, they're for duck hunters. Most of the stuff's way cheaper than that exclusively made for bikers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Hanz
    There's a lot of good stuff at hunting stores. Turns out hunters are one of the few groups that's odder even than us. ... Most of the stuff's way cheaper than that exclusively made for bikers.
    Great idea! I hadn't thought of this. I used to date a hunter and he had some wierd clothing that kept him warm out in the woods. I can't stand the idea of hunting, so it never even crossed my mind, but I'm thinking I might have to visit the hunting department at my local sporting goods store!

    Thanks for the tip!

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    I use sealskinz They work well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterKat
    I tried my pair of neoprene booties over my running shoes... I couldn't use my toe clips with them. The ends of the booties stick out a bit from the toes of my shoes, so when I put my feet in the clips, I only ended up with the tips of my toes on the pedals.
    I have seen canvas shells that strap over toe-clips and stay with the pedals. They do a great job of breaking the wind for your toes and they work for moderate temps with toe-clips.

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    For those interested, I found a place that sells Nordic Gear Electric socks AND gloves.

    http://www.twomorrowssupply.com/heated_socks.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by madhouse
    I have seen canvas shells that strap over toe-clips and stay with the pedals. They do a great job of breaking the wind for your toes and they work for moderate temps with toe-clips.
    These sound exactly like what I am looking for. Any idea where to find these? Or how much they cost? I was about ready to just take my clips off for the winter. I had pondered rigging up something that covered the ends of the clips to make a sort of cup to put the toes of my shoes in to block the wind using tape/plastic/cloth/whatever, but if someone already makes them, I would love to buy a pair!
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    Quote Originally Posted by madhouse
    They do a great job of breaking the wind
    But I don't need help break'n wind! heh heh!

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    I just bought a pair of electric wool socks from REI for $25. They use a "D" cell battery. Haven't tried them out yet.

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    I bought these overbooties from Mountain Equipment Coop:

    http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_d...=1102964898498

    I originally bought them on one rainy day in June to keep the feet dry, but since the cold weather's arrived, I've found they've helped keep my feet warmer in them as well. It's hard to see in the pic, but the booties velcro over your shoe and are pretty quick getting on and off... I believe there's a sizing chart online. You still need to wear warm socks, but it add another wind proof layer.

    As well, they'll ship to the US no problem.

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    I used to ride horses in the dead of winter and then stand aorund on cold concrete barn floors. The best solution was a pair of socks with batteries and a heating strip under my toes. They used a single c or d battery on each leg. They worked great and they weren't expensive. When your feet got warm, you just unsnapped the battery contact. We rode for miles and jumped frences etc. The socks stayed put and were never a problem.

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    I use my neoprene booties everyday and so far I have had no problem at all. The trick is to buy the right size which gives you enough room to slip your cycling shoes on and off easily. Also by using the SPD instead of toe clips you won't put to much compression on your toes during pedaling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vrkelley
    OK all you experienced mushers!...This morning's 50min ride, was 38F. At 25mph on the hill, wind chill was closer to 10F. I felt fine but my feet never did warm up. Very deceiving, cuz upon changing at work, my mid-section was red with cold. Legs felt cold to the touch.

    Had the weather been just 5F colder, there might have been frost-bite issues. Long john seem to be binding about the knees. There's no place to stop and remove layers. Any suggestions?


    =========Was wearing=========
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    mid-weight ski gloves
    Showers pass rain jacket
    DuoFold long sleeve shirt (thin practically see thru)
    Sport top
    ShowersPass Ultrex Rain pant
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    Microfiber sock
    Frostbite is physically impossible unless the temperature is below 32F. Frostbite occurs when your flesh literally freezes. So if a bowl of water left out won't freeze, neither will you. And that depends on the actual temperature, not windchill, although windchill can accelerate the process. And another thing humans have going for them over water is that they are internally heated, so depending on the wind, the temperature would have to be significantly lower than 32F to be a serious frostbite threat.

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    Since my feet FROZE on my commute yesterday. (8F/-13C) I dropped by the sporting goods store to see about some battery heated socks. Yep. They had then right next to all he hunter orange and camo stuff. In fact they were on clearance for $9.00 ! I got the last ones in my size.

    They are made by Nordic Gear Inc., 146 Industrial Park Drive, Morrisville, VT 05661.
    I don't see a web site on the packaging.

    I'll post a report here after I get a chance to test them out.

    EDIT: I found them on a web site: http://www.safetycentral.com/norgearlecso.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenyBen
    Anyone knows where one might find electric socks? And how about electric gloves?

    I found this place for socks
    http://www.allsportsocks.com/batpowbrlecs.html (but they are currently closed)
    and this one
    http://www.thunderboltsocks.com/newproducts.htm (WAY too expensive)

    A search on elecrtic gloves turned out nothing but motorcycle gloves.
    Yes, your on to something here, my next step (no pun intended), is electric socks. I can't stand cold feet. But even worse, I don't want to stop ridding this winter because of the cold. If we can't find electric gloves, maybe we could wear electric socks on our hands? maybe underneath a pair of mittens? mmmm, warm.

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    Hey VeganRider. The site in my previous post also has electric gloves by Nordic Gear!

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    2 things to keep in mind:
    1) keep well hydrated. The #1 cause of hypothermia IS dehydration.
    2)don't drink coffee before you ride. I know this sucks especially for the AM ride. No coffee gives one better circulaton to the extremities. It's a vasodilator(sp?) which shrinks the viens meaning less blood flow. Some days I have to decide between warm toes or a coffee fix. Often I've settled for cold toes. I'm a junkie, what can I say. Charlie

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    If you're in the midwest and have a Scheel's near you, you can get the heated socks there for $19.99 - a lot cheaper than I saw online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterKat
    What are these?
    Totes are rubber overshoes that are very flexible and roll up into a small package. I wear them over my dress shoes, and they are good down to 0 F. They make the most sense with dress shoes and platform pedals, but some people have reported good results with cycling shoes and clipless after cutting holes in the bottom.

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