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Old 10-20-11, 09:24 AM
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cold knees & groin - baselayer, or outer?

This is my first cold weather cycling season. In years past, I was on the trainer anywhere below 50F. This morning at 5:45 AM it was 32 with a windchill of 27. I would've been warmer in daylight at this temp due to sunshine but I ride every morning 30-45 min before work.

I won't get into my full kit because I was fine except for my gloves, which are being addressed already, and my groin & knees.

I wore some Descent thermal bib tights. They're fairly thick and wind was not a problem. My thighs and calves were great. My groin and lower abdomen was cold and my knees were cool, not quite cold. I had only this single layer.

Things I could do right now:
- Underwear baselayer, and deal with the bunching of material
- Liner cycling shorts baselayer, which have a chamois. Two chamois does not seem like a good idea.
- Sweat pants over my tights. I've walked the dog in sweats before and I doubt they will do a whole lot, but it would be something.

Things I could buy:
- Baselayer tights or shorts
- Knee warmers
- Overpants, like these: https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...1_201579_10000
- Running tights, no chamois. Probably would wear over.
- Yoga pants, definitely wear over.

Feedback is appreciated. Since I'm currently riding less than one hour, overheat is not a major concern. On a weekend or after work ride, I can stop and remove a layer if I need to.
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I'm not familiar with the bib tights you cite. For cold weather riding, I'll go with normal bib shorts and tights specific to the weather. I've got three levels of tights: the cheap poly down to 40F; a heavier, lined pair down to 30F; and fleece "tights" (that really are loose) below 30F.
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Another pair of tights with chamois is probably the most expensive thing I can do, especially if they are bibs. I think what I have is probably similar to what you're wearing down to 30F. I wasn't miserable, but my groin in particular was cold enough that it was distracting.

Are you layering above or beneath, or wearing just the tights?
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My tights have no chamois, and they usually go on sale (Perf-bar) for $30 a couple times a year. Normal bib shorts with chamois underneath, tights on top. One layer on the knees, two on the groin; adjust the weight of the tights to the weather.
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