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    Riding up to Ski Lodge

    So i live in portland Oregon, about 80 miles away from Mt Hood Meadows (the ski lodge I work at at 5500 feet elevation) I usually drive or ride the bus but am interested in trying a new challenge. I want to ride up there during the heart of winter. Why? Becasue I know I can...(with the right gear that is). Ive never really ridden in much snow and don't know what i need to be prepared.
    I have a Cadd3 touring series (meant for extra wide road tires, probably not MTB tires) that I could haul my snowboard up in. I think i am prepared for riding in 15 degree weather but I dont know what to do about the tires. Studds seem like a good idea but that means i would have to change my tires on the road when the snow statrs to cover it. I would just start with studds but 70 miles with studds and no snow would be silly. only the last 10 miles will be slick. Does anybody think Cross tires could work for snow and some ice? any suggestions for a ride like this?

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    my suggestion is ride it in the late spring .
    bikeskisun.jpg

    and do it as an overnighter

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    Ride your bike to ZigZag and rent a mtn bike for the rest of the ride.

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    Ship or preposition a set of wheels with studded tires (or just studded tires if you want to change tires) to where you need them, assuming there is somewhere there that will hold them for you. Swap wheels/tires on the way up and back down. If you can find folding studded tires, you could carry them with you.

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    Also, if you are only concerned about ice, and a little snow, Schwalbe Marathon Winters are an option. You can ride them on dry pavement, and although it takes a little more effort, if you inflate to max pressure, they won't slow you down that much. Just let out some air when it gets slippery. More than a couple inches of snow, you'll want knobby studded tires, which are slow on dry pavement.

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    I've always thought about doing that in Spokane (Mt Spokane or 49 Degrees North). The roads are always well plowed and I wouldn't hesitate to take my mountain or 'cross bike. But what scares me more than the road conditions are the idiots heading to the ski hill. The mountain roads are narrow and the skiers are always in a hurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn Mike View Post
    I've always thought about doing that in Spokane (Mt Spokane or 49 Degrees North). The roads are always well plowed and I wouldn't hesitate to take my mountain or 'cross bike. But what scares me more than the road conditions are the idiots heading to the ski hill. The mountain roads are narrow and the skiers are always in a hurry.
    In Italian Alps I recall local kids riding up daily to the main lift terminal with their snow boards strapped to their bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn Mike View Post
    I've always thought about doing that in Spokane (Mt Spokane or 49 Degrees North). The roads are always well plowed and I wouldn't hesitate to take my mountain or 'cross bike. But what scares me more than the road conditions are the idiots heading to the ski hill. The mountain roads are narrow and the skiers are always in a hurry.
    Thats a fact about the skiers driving up Mt Spokane. I go snow shoeing a couple of times a week and it's crazy how these guys take chances just to save a few seconds getting to the top. I was going to head up there Friday until I found out it's opening day. I'll think I'll wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn Mike View Post
    I've always thought about doing that in Spokane (Mt Spokane or 49 Degrees North). The roads are always well plowed and I wouldn't hesitate to take my mountain or 'cross bike. But what scares me more than the road conditions are the idiots heading to the ski hill. The mountain roads are narrow and the skiers are always in a hurry.
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    Plus skiing is all about time management. Get there early and well rested. Ski or snowboard with max effort. Go home after a full day, feeling very tired. It's the only way to justify the overpriced lift tickets and food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevemtbr View Post
    Thats a fact about the skiers driving up Mt Spokane. I go snow shoeing a couple of times a week and it's crazy how these guys take chances just to save a few seconds getting to the top. I was going to head up there Friday until I found out it's opening day. I'll think I'll wait.
    Hey Steve, you wanna MTB at Riverside sometime? I now have both of my mountain bikes working again. I've been out to RSP a few times this week already.

    Winter content: yeah we should head up to Mt Spokane too....

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    Climbed to Sunrise Ski Resort in the White Mts. of Arizona in summertime about 20-some years ago on our tandem bike. Altitude 9,200 feet.
    Missed a hailstorm by a few minutes; temps dropped 20-some degrees. C-O-L-D!
    Put on rainproof jacket/gloves and couple layers underneath . . . you can always take some off. Let some air out of your back tire for better traction if it becomes an issue..
    Stuff couple sheets of newspaer between chest and jacket for the chillier descent.
    Yes, been caught in snowstorm in Michigan; sorta neat till snow piles up on you and you get soaked!
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    I'd second the Marathon Winter tires recommendation. When inflated fully they ride on the center with very little stud (or none) making contact. When deflated a bit they will bite into ice. Their studs are not nearly as prominant as Nokia 294's and would be my first choice if I could not preposition a second set of wheels which was also a very good recommendation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramseykp View Post
    So i live in portland Oregon, about 80 miles away from Mt Hood Meadows (the ski lodge I work at at 5500 feet elevation) I usually drive or ride the bus but am interested in trying a new challenge. I want to ride up there during the heart of winter. Why? Becasue I know I can...(with the right gear that is). Ive never really ridden in much snow and don't know what i need to be prepared.
    I have a Cadd3 touring series (meant for extra wide road tires, probably not MTB tires) that I could haul my snowboard up in. I think i am prepared for riding in 15 degree weather but I dont know what to do about the tires. Studds seem like a good idea but that means i would have to change my tires on the road when the snow statrs to cover it. I would just start with studds but 70 miles with studds and no snow would be silly. only the last 10 miles will be slick. Does anybody think Cross tires could work for snow and some ice? any suggestions for a ride like this?
    once you ride the 80 miles, will you be staying at the mt hood lodge? It won't leave much time at all to ski.

    perhaps leave the snowboard in a locker, book a room for a weekend with what looks like good weather, ride like all get out on a nice friday, stay at the lodge, ski saturday, then depart on sunday? 80 miles from Portland will put you on the UPHILL when every skier is on the DOWNHILL coming back from a day of skiing, minimizing the problem with uphill skiers in a rush to get to the lifts.

    Video of mine coming back downhill from a 5 day backcountry ski trip in the spring in Mount Rainier Nat'l Park/ Chinook Pass, Washington....

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    Addition to my original post to better answer the OP's question; I've never "rode to ski", but do lots of winter riding.

    I would start with non-studded tires. The only time studs are of any benefit is in icy conditions. In every other condition they will slow you down and make you feel like you are pedaling a garden tractor. 70 miles is a long way to pedal on studded tires (if you plan to pedal the whole way). The snow conditions should dictate what tires you use. If the roads are plowed and dry, your touring tires may be all you need. If there's a few inches of snow, or well packed snow, cyclocross tires or a mountain bike would be my choice. If there's more than a few inches of new snow, the going will be very tough, even on a mountain bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn Mike View Post
    Hey Steve, you wanna MTB at Riverside sometime? I now have both of my mountain bikes working again. I've been out to RSP a few times this week already.

    Winter content: yeah we should head up to Mt Spokane too....
    Just let me know when it's a good time for you. The rest of this week is no good for me since I've been battling a bug for the past few weeks. But I should be fine next week and I'll check the SRV page for any other posted rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevemtbr View Post
    Just let me know when it's a good time for you. The rest of this week is no good for me since I've been battling a bug for the past few weeks. But I should be fine next week and I'll check the SRV page for any other posted rides.
    I've been bad about posting on the forum, but I've been riding quite a bit lately. I'll shoot you a text next time we head out. Sorry for the hi-jack.

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