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Old 10-16-12, 09:46 PM   #1
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So what's the word on Schwalbe Marathon Winters?

The set of Kenda Klondike 26x2.1" that I currently own is too big to allow fenders, so I want to get some skinnier studded tires. The Marathon Winters look great on paper, but I've heard they tended to shed studs -- is that still a problem?

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Old 10-17-12, 04:00 AM   #2
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Hasn't been for me.
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That's good to hear. This would be for a fixed-gear that I would "slow" to stops rather than skid, for what that's worth.
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this might or might not help.....my Nokian 294's are going on their 6-7 year, not one stud lost

my Marathon winters used last year, 2 studs lost

both were properly bed in before winter

even though I lost the studs on the marathon's, they work pretty good, lighter weight than my Nokian's, and also a kevlar layer for flat protection and the ability to inflate higher psi when the streets are clearer, and drop psi when I the roads not plowed

so I tend to use the marathons everyday and the nokians when the winter conditions are at their worst
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This guy seems pretty happy with them... http://cyclingintothedark.com/
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The set of Kenda Klondike 26x2.1" that I currently own is too big to allow fenders, so I want to get some skinnier studded tires. The Marathon Winters look great on paper, but I've heard they tended to shed studs -- is that still a problem?

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I bought a set of marathon winters for last winter. Lost 12 or 14 from the front one, a handful from the one in the back. Didn't get a response to the email I sent schwalbe about how to get replacements.

I like them, they worked well, and were low drag, considering. Never flatted, which was good, because they're a pain to get on and off.

I have a new bike, with a different tire size, so I needed new tires for it. I bought Nokkians for it.
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I've got about 5 or 6 winters on a set of Marathon Winters. Don't think I've lost a stud yet. Mind you, the last 3 winters have just been occasional recreational riding, no commuting.
Considering trying a set of Schwalbe snow studs this winter to see if they handle the snow better than the Winters do. The Snow Stud tires only have 2 rows of studs, but a much more aggressive tread pattern. The Winters are terrific on ice but they suck in snow.
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The set of Kenda Klondike 26x2.1" that I currently own is too big to allow fenders, so I want to get some skinnier studded tires. The Marathon Winters look great on paper, but I've heard they tended to shed studs -- is that still a problem?

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How'd you like the Klondikes?
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2 winters on my marathons. Maybe one stud lost. I suppose I should count.
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They shed studs like crazy. I lost around 10 from each tire last year, which compares badly to my Nokians, which never lost any. I talked to Schwalbe about a refund, and they made friendly noises but failed to deliver. They do sell tiny packages of expensive replacement studs, but I'll probably fill the holes with Nokian studs which cost less and are probably better.

They do perform better than Nokians. However, once they wear out, I'm going back to tried and true Nokians. I'll take quality over performance any day.

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No real stud loss here but they are best when the snow isn't deep. Great tire for plowed/icy to light snow conditions
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I think I may have lost 1 or 2 studs on my 700x35 Marathon Winters. Other than that, great winter tire.
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Very few studs lost, on 3rd winter with daily riding. Best for ice and not deep snow. I am putting together a wheelset of the Ice Spikers for really snowy days but I don't expect to use them much - good thing: they are slow!
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awesome tires
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I lost 2 studs in the first few rides, but no more in the past two seasons. They are a fast tire, something I appreciate on my 16km commute. They are best used on cleared roads or hard packed surfaces. Very squirmy in white loose snow. But at max pressure they cut through slush and the brown loose stuff well.
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How'd you like the Klondikes?
Well, I commuted all the way through last winter and they barely saw any snow. So my impression is just "slow and buzzy."

Thanks for all the responses, folks. I get the impression that older batches of the Marathon Winters ("2 winters", "3rd winter", "5 or 6 winters") may have been better, with minimal to no stud loss. And since my town isn't always punctual at plowing the streets, these tires may not be best for the deep snow I may encounter.

Think I'll just spring for a set of Nokian 240s, then. Thanks again.
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