mouth breathing and cold
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mouth breathing and cold
I can't get enough air thru my nose in the cold. So I breathe thru my mouth. I have been using a scarf over my mouth, or something knitted in the cold and it really helps. Now the question is, is there something better.
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There are some neck/face only hats that have semi permeable face plates for breathing to get a little less condensation. Some balaclavas are also made that way. So far this year I haven't needed that personally but some years it is needed until the lungs get used to the cold.
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Use a balaclava. The material is much easier to breathe through than a knitted scarf. How could does it get where you live?
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I tried searching that product i was talking about but it may not be on the market any longer. It was discussed on this forum a few years ago. You might look at something like this:
https://gizmodo.com/5454880/coldaveng...you-breathe-in
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I can breathe inside my rain cape, and just see over the top of the collar ..
and I have a fleece Neck Gaiter I can pull over my nose and mouth..
for thr dryer cold.. At 0C.
and I have a fleece Neck Gaiter I can pull over my nose and mouth..
for thr dryer cold.. At 0C.
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Review some history by searching on respirator:
https://www.bikeforums.net/search.php?searchid=6840600
A regular respirator without filters, a neoprene mask, and the heat exchanger methods and equipment are often discussed, in addition to cloth coverings.
I use the respirator approach below 15F. While it's not necessary from a health point of view (most people can breathe safely at far lower temperatures), I wear it for the comfort as it helps shield the skin and pre warms the incoming air a trifle while keeping my teeth from being achingly cold if I breathe through the mouth one too many times.
https://www.bikeforums.net/search.php?searchid=6840600
A regular respirator without filters, a neoprene mask, and the heat exchanger methods and equipment are often discussed, in addition to cloth coverings.
I use the respirator approach below 15F. While it's not necessary from a health point of view (most people can breathe safely at far lower temperatures), I wear it for the comfort as it helps shield the skin and pre warms the incoming air a trifle while keeping my teeth from being achingly cold if I breathe through the mouth one too many times.
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I use this from Turtle Fur :
https://tinyurl.com/bpcxmn6
and I actually had to trim some fabric away from the mouth area to let my big goatee hang out. Has worked well for me down into upper single digits (F)...
https://tinyurl.com/bpcxmn6
and I actually had to trim some fabric away from the mouth area to let my big goatee hang out. Has worked well for me down into upper single digits (F)...
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Here is a skiing accessory that works well. It's called a "Snowdana"
and can be adjusted anyway you like while riding. It is made of a nice fleece comes in a lot of styles and keeps the face and neck comfy without making you look like a mass-murderer (just a bandit).
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and can be adjusted anyway you like while riding. It is made of a nice fleece comes in a lot of styles and keeps the face and neck comfy without making you look like a mass-murderer (just a bandit).
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I use a neck warmer that has a built in part to go over the lower part of your face that you can breath through. Don't need anything in 30deg weather though. I use this in the 10deg and below stuff.
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I get a pretty sore throat if I go on a longer ride. A 30 minute ride I am fine. The longer ones are a problem. I can take the camelbak but then my back gets very sweaty even in the cold.. Or hit a convenience store when I empty the 2 bottles. With the neck warmer I loose less out my lungs so I can ride farther before stopping.
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I get a pretty sore throat if I go on a longer ride. A 30 minute ride I am fine. The longer ones are a problem. I can take the camelbak but then my back gets very sweaty even in the cold.. Or hit a convenience store when I empty the 2 bottles. With the neck warmer I loose less out my lungs so I can ride farther before stopping.
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I use a beardhead for really cold, and just a normal balaclava for standard cold.
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Without the filters on the half mask respirators are just perfect for mouth breathing in cold weather.
I personally use neoprene half face masks as it works fine too for me.
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Yes, it is working, and it sounds like it is the best I can do. I have to wash it as soon as I get in or it begins to smell. So I just do my other stuff too. It seems strange you can be cold and sweating at the same time, but that is what happens. I am staying warm though. Nothing gets so cold it hurts, which is good.
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Yes, it is working, and it sounds like it is the best I can do. I have to wash it as soon as I get in or it begins to smell. So I just do my other stuff too. It seems strange you can be cold and sweating at the same time, but that is what happens. I am staying warm though. Nothing gets so cold it hurts, which is good.
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IMO if your not breathing mostly thru your mouth your not working hard enough. I must cover my mouth
to attempt some air warming per injury yrs ago. My solution to date is a long hand knitted scarf with two layers covering the mouth.. also a good wrap of the throat section too. Yes one sweats.. but that degree of effort given the necessary winter clothing means trapped heat... and water loss to perspiration.
to attempt some air warming per injury yrs ago. My solution to date is a long hand knitted scarf with two layers covering the mouth.. also a good wrap of the throat section too. Yes one sweats.. but that degree of effort given the necessary winter clothing means trapped heat... and water loss to perspiration.
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I sew the nose opening of a seirus neoprene mask. Now the cold air warm up more because it enter via the holes of the mask for the mouth. The distance the air must do to reach the nose has increased
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Some neoprene face masks have a mesh of small ventilation holes in front of your mouth. They block enough wind to keep your face warm but allow you to exhale normally, which prevents blowby along your nose which can fog your glasses. I have the glasses fogging problem with both of my balaclavas unless I'm very careful with placement and how I exhale.
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That plus double lens goggles and no more fogging problem most of the time (except if i'm not moving for at least several minutes or indoor with the goggles on)
https://www.amazon.com/Neoprene-Half-...=neoprene+mask
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For the foggy glasses problem I put an exhaust tube on the exit valve of the half-mask respirator without filters, moving it down vertically to mid-torso (sump pump drain hose by the foot at the hardware store). I wind up with frost and ice on my torso, but it melts/dries between rides. Looks comical, but then winter commuting is in the dark for me most of the season, and I prefer the comfort of the half-mask when it gets down below 15F.
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The Cold Avenger face mask works great for me. Good ventilation and no sucking in cloth in your mouth (when inhaling) with scarves or traditioal balaclavas.
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Try a neoprene face mask by sierus;
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The Neoprene masks don't help much, because they have holes in them for you to breath in---and you are still breathing in ice cold air.
Try a Neoprene mask for warmth with a Buff rag (Merino wool is what I use) over the top:
https://www.buffwear.com/index.php?route=common/home
This material is thinner and doesn't get nearly as wet, soggy and cold as a fleece balaclava. I also use a Shemagh if I need more warmth, one like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Rothco-SHEMAGH...tactical+scarf
You can tie a Shemagh in all sorts of ways, you don't have to use it as a full head wrap.
Try a Neoprene mask for warmth with a Buff rag (Merino wool is what I use) over the top:
https://www.buffwear.com/index.php?route=common/home
This material is thinner and doesn't get nearly as wet, soggy and cold as a fleece balaclava. I also use a Shemagh if I need more warmth, one like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Rothco-SHEMAGH...tactical+scarf
You can tie a Shemagh in all sorts of ways, you don't have to use it as a full head wrap.