erig007

The warmest socks i know of before going for wool felt liners are:

Smartwool Mountaineering extra heavy crew and hunt extra OTC
J.B Field's Icelandic Ice - 50 below Gumboot cuff
J.B Field's Icelandic Ice socks
Louis Garneau Drytex 500
Woolpower socks 800

and those look warm too
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-HAND-KNI...-/130781558911


Is there any warmer socks available anyone?

MichaelW

I got some nice warm socks in a trendy Norwegian Salvation Army shop in Bergen.
I dont know if they are mil-spec but thick, light grey and quite hardwearing.

Bat56

https://darntough.com/hike-trek-1440.html

digibud

Yes, I think there are. The warmest socks I have are thick, all wool socks and they have been shrunk by being put in boiling/hot water or something. I think they may have been made by wigwam but I'm not sure. They are quite thick and heavy and don't look or feel like any of my other "regular" wool socks. They are not scratchy at all. I did a quick search and was reminded they are 'Dachstein" socks. I web site describing them a bit is at https://www.bradleyalpinist.com/dachstein.html but it's just one of many sites. I don't know if they are warmer than those you mention but they are my warmest socks and believe me, I have a lot of warm winter clothing because "I live further north than you do".

Sixty Fiver

I find that two thinner wool socks is warmer than one thicker sock, Gold Toe wool socks make a great base sock under a middleweight boot sock.

erig007

What about 2 thicker wool socks I have room in my new mukluks

Myosmith

It's important to note that when switching to thicker socks or two layers of socks, that if it makes your footwear tight and restrictive your feet will actually be colder than if you went with the thinner socks. I'm a big fan of Omni-wool merino wool and polyesther blend 70/28 with 2% spandex. They are warm, comfortable and can be washed by machine in cold water and a short cycle then hung or air dried in a drier without shrinking like 100% wool socks do.

etw

I recently got these and they work very well

https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/68376?feat=0-ppxs&dds=y

Sixty Fiver

Not all wool is created equal as the fibres from different wool producing animals can vary significantly, Alpaca is much warmer than sheep's wool and Yak wool is the warmest on the planet.

Merino is the softest of sheep and is more easily worn close to the skin and an excellent insulator.

erig007

something like this?



Yak


Alpaca fiber grading



More data here:

textile school - wool fibers
https://www.textileschool.com/School/...speed=noscript

basic properties of different fibers
https://www.textileschool.com/School/...speed=noscript

lots of images of fibers under a microscope (alpaca, angora, camel, mohair, wool, yak, cotton, flax, hemp, linen, ramie, silk, acetate, acrylic, aramid, modacrylic, nylon, olefin, pla, polyester, rayon/viscose/liocell, spandex, polypro, vinyon/polyvinyl chloride and more)
https://www.microlabgallery.com/ClothingFiberFile.aspx

cashmere
https://www.cashmere.org/news/METI_2007_04.htm

bikerjp

Where can I score me some yak socks?

erig007

My guess is that before going for yak socks quality of fibers, thickness of the socks and even if it's really yak fibers should be check first.
For instance, the fibers could be better than sheep's wool socks but if the thickness of the yak socks is just half of the sheep's wool one then my guess is the wool socks will be warmer

By goggling it i have found a few shops
https://www.naturellementchanvre.com/...-wool-yak.html
https://www.shop-e-mongol.com/en/wool...-295-1994.html

scoatw

I use wool hiking socks from LL Bean. The Redhead brand from Bass Pro shop are my favorite at the moment.

triumph.1

hotronics, problem solved.

erig007

I wouldn't bet my feet on it because of the lack of reliability. If it was 100% reliable why not but it isn't. It creates a false sense of security preventing people from wearing enough layers until it stops working half way to the summit of the Everest mountain. It is good as backup but not as main system. Or you could go for it as main system but you would need another system as back up that you know works. Either way, you need some socks. And once you remove your feet from the shoes/boots you're wearing in the middle of nowhere to add the backup system it's hard to get the heat back. Better to go for something more reliable first.

pyze-guy

Readhead +1, great socks.
I also really like the great canadian sox company super wool hikers from MEC, great price and very warm.

droy45

Any heavy weight Merino Wool is the best. I use the LL Bean ones too.

triumph.1

So serious? since I only ride 20-40 miles a ride during the winter because I hate the cold, I don't think there is much chance of me freezing to death or building a false sense of security. I have never climbed mountains and don't suspect I'll ever do Everest. So given that the simple truth is I have issues keeping my feet warm and no type or amount of socks have ever kept me warm, since I was a teen. For the first time in my life I can actually go ride in the cold w/o my feet freezing and going numb after 10 miles. I owe this to the unreliable hotronics system. I still wear my two layers of woolies and the hotronics are on and off during rides so I don't get the false sense of security thing you mention. Apparently you have had one or more issues with hotronics and no doubt do a lot more winter riding and mountain climbing than I. I always carry a cell phone in case something goes wrong so I can be picked up if I start to freeze. Just for conversation purposes you do know that one can purchase extra heating elements and batteries if one is paranoid.

erig007

Every situation is specific maybe it works for you. My own experience has shown me that most of electronic devices with batteries randomly fail in winter. I'm not worrying about the 99% of the time it works but the one time it doesn't as one time is enough to lose some toes. As I have explained in another thread i was close to lose my toes once and my ride wasn't even longer than yours and the temps just below freezing. Purchasing extra heating elements and batteries is a perfectly fine solution to deal with the "1%" of failure except if the factor leading to failure is what i have experienced ...low temps. Anyway you seems to have thought it through. My solution was to get some good mukluks, VBL and wool socks yours is hotronics everybody is happy

Bikeforumuser0017

https://www.acorn.com/product/acorn-v...ortby=ourPicks

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