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    tougher than a boiled owl droy45's Avatar
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    I use the Nashbar Derby Softshell with the proper amount of dry wicking layers underneath and good to below 0F.NA-DSWJ-RD-ANGLE[1].jpg
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    I have the SP Elite 2.0, but after 4 years of experimentation, this year I purchased a jacket from Lou after reading a lot about him here. He is the man! This jacket has Neoshell front and breathable panels under arms and back. More details at http://foxwear.net/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methodical View Post
    Biscayne below is a link to the Phantom 2.0 that's on sale for $125 (plus you can get another 8% thru Mr. Rebate). It offers: warmth; a 2 in 1 jacket (sleeves can be removed and worn as a jersey); venting if needed (you can slightly unzip the sleeves if you'd need to); venting out back. It provides the same warmth as the one you linked. I know it's your preference, but I think you get more for your money with this jacket and it cost less, depending on your size and color preference (different colors are on sale). "It's better to have and not need than to need and not have." Take a look at it.

    http://www.backcountry.com/gore-bike...questid=289910


    http://www.mrrebates.com/merchants/a...d.asp?letter=b
    Thanks.

    I did look at the other Gore jackets and none were available in a Small/Black...if there was it was full price and around the price of the Castelli.

    Let's keep the thread going since I know lots and lots of people would like to have an idea on what jacket to buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscayne05 View Post
    Thanks.

    I did look at the other Gore jackets and none were available in a Small/Black...if there was it was full price and around the price of the Castelli.

    Let's keep the thread going since I know lots and lots of people would like to have an idea on what jacket to buy.
    Yeah, they tend to keep the black version at the higher price - must be the better selling color. You're getting a Gore and therefore quality.
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    Black? Eeeek. I don't wear anything that looks even vaguely like asphalt. No black, no gray, no white, no brown. Also no blue or green, just in case it's a nice day. Only time a car ever pulled out in front of me, I was wearing blue and green. Many shades of red are also invisible at a distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy View Post
    Black? Eeeek. I don't wear anything that looks even vaguely like asphalt. No black, no gray, no white, no brown. Also no blue or green, just in case it's a nice day. Only time a car ever pulled out in front of me, I was wearing blue and green. Many shades of red are also invisible at a distance.
    What colors are left?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by kccommuter View Post
    I have the SP Elite 2.0, but after 4 years of experimentation, this year I purchased a jacket from Lou after reading a lot about him here. He is the man! This jacket has Neoshell front and breathable panels under arms and back. More details at http://foxwear.net/
    I prefer the Showers Pass Elite 2.0. In fact, it's the piece of gear I would never give up. But Foxwear for everything else: socks, outer and base layer pants, base and mid-layer uppers. I just need to find some head gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank244 View Post
    What colors are left?????
    Uh, yellow, orange, the more Italian shades of red, the high-viz shades of green. If you're not wearing high-viz clothing, you're looking to become a hood ornament. Also flashers in the daytime, front and rear. This is especially critical in the wintertime, though true in summer also. This means if you are going to take off your high-viz top layer, you either have to have a high-viz layer under it, or replace it with another, lighter, high-viz layer. In winter, I use a vest with reflective patches, EU standard, to replace the jacket if I get too warm.

    I suppose if you don't have anyone who cares about you, it's no big deal. Another newspaper/TV news story looks bad for cycling in the short term, but might raise long-term awareness and help pass better road safety legislation, so it's not a totally bad thing.

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    I own two winter cycling jackets:

    - some Performance thing I got almost 20 years ago that's all fleece with thick windproof panels on the front of the torso and arms. Very warm, yet breathes really well. Has zippered side pockets rather than typical cycling pockets in the back, so it doesn't work well for long rides, but it's my go-to for commuting or short rides.

    - Assos AirJack 851. They must make these from the hides of virgin unicorns, there's some serious magic going on in this thing! Very lightweight, form-fitting, weird ultra-modern fabric that makes you look like a member of a Star Trek away-team...but with nothing but a base layer underneath I can ride in mid-20F temps and not be too cold nor break a sweat. Fascinatingly warm for such a thin fabric. Lots of rear pockets. Fits like a glove, makes me look like a rock star, and I've never been on a ride that was too cold for it. Plus I got it as a gift, so I don't even have to get into the "But it's so expensive!" discussion.

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    I'm working on my second Showers Pass jacket. The first one was the "Century" model, purchased in 07. That lasted till Nov 2010 thru heavy use. The zipper eventually quit working. One of those deals where you zip it up and it would come apart in the middle. So I forked out another $250 for an "Elite" model. After three months the zipper on the chest pocket broke, so I can no longer use that. These are good jackets, they live up to all of the hype, IMO. But if you're riding year round, through winter, and using it as your outer shell like I do. Then it will probably last you three years perhaps. I'm just going by the first one that I had. Anyway, when this one wears out I'm going with the J&G jacket. I hear too many good things about them and they are priced right.

    Personally, I think spending $300+ for a jacket is a waste of money considering all of the lower priced choices out there that perform just as good, if not better.

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    An ebayed ex-police class III foul weather cycling jacket, similar to to this http://www.kitdesignworks.co.uk/prod...o-cycle-jacket, but without the battenburg and badges. Soft quiet material too.

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    Wow, looks like one of everything on here! Here is my mix: Long sleeve poly undershirt; Arc'Teryx Atom mid layer; Showers Pass Elite 2.0 wind shell. The inner and outer layers are pretty standard and many products I have tried do well, but the incredible piece that I find to be magic is the Arc'Teryx Atom mid layer. http://www.backcountry.com/arcteryx-...ed-jacket-mens This is an extremely flexible mid layer that is REALLY light, warm, packable, breathable, and extremely comfortable. Nylon inside and out means it slides over or under anything easily and does not bunch up like fleece. It is very usable from 15 degrees as a mid layer to 65 degrees by itself. It is water repellent too if worn alone. It does not look like a bike-specific jacket so it is turning into something I wear almost daily. I wear it to work, I wear it around the office when it is a little cool, I wear it biking in any weather below 70 degrees. It seems to regulate for a wide range of temperatures without needing to make adjustments and ventilates extremely well when you are working hard, yet when you stop and make a decent you are not wet and clammy inside. It is wonderful! Outer and inner layers are pretty easy to find something that works, but the Atom mid-layer is a real versatile gem which I have found to be better than anything else I have used. The versatility of it also makes it easier to shell out the $180 bucks for it because I wear it so often. It also washes very easily and comes out still looking new (not ratty like fleece gets after you wear it for a while). A size large can compress into the size of a 12 oz. coke can too so it has become a standard piece of my summer touring gear too. And I agree with the poster above who said the Showers Pass is not worth the money. It is a great jacket, but there are a lot of great jackets for a lot less money out there...
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    Do someone use a Rapha Softshell ? Or is it too thin ?
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    I use a North Face Apex Bionic shell myself. Not exactly cycling-specific, but it's gotten the job done.
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    When it gets extreme cold, I break out Arc'teryx Alpha SV shell and Atom hoody insulator with Phase SV base-layers.(under -20)

    Normally, I wear light base-layers and a synthetic fleece shirt plus Burton AK gore-tex shell.(-5C ~-10C) Add TNF Apex. (-15C ~ -20C)

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    I just made it through the entire winter wearing this White Sierra brand parka that I picked up at a thrift store for six dollars. And it worked perfectly. I usually had a heavy sweater or shirt on7870527950_7d1004cce7_b.jpg under it and only once, when the wind chill was below zero, did I have to wear a third layer.

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    N/M thread is about racer look , not utility.
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    I'm interested in the Rapha Classic Softshell or the Castelli Espresso Due. Anyone tried both?

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    I replaced my LG massimo 2 jacket by the icebreaker blast wool jacket and find it just amazing:
    -stylish
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    -breath wonderfully
    -got it on sale for a bargain
    -wool doesn't smell easily
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    i combined it with a smartwool phd hify divide half zip that has a wind resistant front panel.
    I'm now wearing only wool with synthetic outer panels from head to toes and can whistand anything from 30F to -40F i believe.
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    Rapha softshell.. but my winter is mild.. no snow

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    spdntrxi,

    do you have any experience with other jackets? Is the Rapha jacket really that much better than the rest? I understand that is subjective, but I assume that there are probably some key differences that make it worth it to you.

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    Bought a Pearl Izumi Elite Softshell jacket for this winter. First softshell jacket I've owned. I got it discounted from Pricepoint. I absolutely love it. 45 and above, I just wear the PI, nothing under or over. Colder and I add a Craft SS or LS, depending. It works fine for showers, but eventually soaks through in rain, so I add a Voler Jet windshell over it. Both the PI and the Voler are Hi Viz. The PI is wonderfully light, thin, and warm. It breathes and dries quickly under way.

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    I use the ShowersPass Softshell trainer; paired with a Smartwol LS half-zip as a base layer. Work great down to mid-twenties. lower than that I add another base layer. Jacket is great, with good vetilation and good pocket selection
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    I've got last year's (I think) Pearl Izumi Elite Softshell jacket. My only complaint is that it's almost too warm for 30 degrees F and above. I wear it over an old Bontrager long sleeve jersey and that's good down to about 5-10 degrees, at which point I wear a cotton t-shirt as well. Love the jacket. I've worn it in temps down to -30F (w/ windchill) and haven't yet lost a nipple or been irremediably cold.
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