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Old 02-22-05, 06:32 PM   #1
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fogged googles: the final solution

got them in the mail, couldn't wait to try them out, Smith Turbo CAM goggles.. so far I have not been able to make them fog.. has a two speed fan to draw air continuously thu and I have not even needed the high setting yet.. no more fogging when you stop for lights or repairs.. I even leave them on until I get inside the house after my ride.. and they still DO NOT FOG...
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Actually i thought i had the ultimate solution. I just got contact lenses last month and now i don't wear glasses and or goggles when fogging is a problem. Yeah!!! Nor more fogging goggles!!!
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thats much cheaper.. but that wind gets soo cold in the middle of the night..
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I stop cycling at -25C/-13f because I can't see. No problems with the cold just visibility. I have tried a number of things. Even tried prescription swimming goggles. Goggles are required to protect the only skin which is still exposited. I have dumped my glasses and am just tiring to find a pair of goggles which will let me see .. no success... I will look into the Smith Turbo CAM goggles mentioned above (thanks)... Any other suggestions
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got them in the mail, couldn't wait to try them out, Smith Turbo CAM goggles.. so far I have not been able to make them fog.. has a two speed fan to draw air continuously thu and I have not even needed the high setting yet.. no more fogging when you stop for lights or repairs.. I even leave them on until I get inside the house after my ride.. and they still DO NOT FOG...
Did the moving air inside the goggles make your eyes feel cold? How cold was it outside that day?

Did you notice anything negative? If you don't mind, how much were they?

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no noticeable breeze on the face from the fan.. and you can't even hear it when you are riding with it on low, on hi you can hear a little it but its not bothersome..wind and road noise cover it up for the most part.. i got them for $110 from motorhelmets.com... but these are the large OTG(over the glasses) and if I had it all to do again I might rather have the mediums since i don't wear glasses.. I went with these because they came with clear lens, and I picked up gold light and grey lenses also from them for $6.50 each.. motorhelmets only had that size for the turbo CAM and it was on sale and their policy is no return etc.. so you may want to try it somewhere else where you can return them if you aren't happy etc.. I see the same goggles for the same price at
dirt-bikes.ridegear.com and they also have the matching quarter mask. I want to try the quarter mask as a way to keep cold off the nose without blocking air flow.. The half and full maks might even be worth a try.. These things attach to the goggle to deflect dirt and debris and the full mask looks like it has a filter in it..
The only downside to these other than being a bit bulky is it's a bit of a hassle to wash them since there is an electronic fan in them.. you can't just submerge them in a sink full of soapy water.. Instead I carefully submerge a side of edge foam at a time and squish it repeatedly to force the soapy water thru ... I think I got it down now so its not so bad.. I do it immediately after riding when i wash my face before they get a chance to dry.. they have excellent foam on them and are very comfortable.. with a strap big enough to go over the helmet... I have a small flashing vista light on top in the back that I hook it over to keep it in place.. I'm thrilled with them.. I have been down into the teens with them on but it hasn't been cold enough for below 0 test.. I dont expect to have any problems with it tho..
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tomorrow will be the next big test.. shoveling snow and snow blowing.. any goggles or glasses I have tried to use for these activities end up a foggy mess.. to much heat being generated without any air moving.. I think these will work great for this.. and with a blizzard well under way up here in the northeast.. I will soon get a chance to find out..
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tomorrow will be the next big test.. shoveling snow and snow blowing.. any goggles or glasses I have tried to use for these activities end up a foggy mess.. to much heat being generated without any air moving.. I think these will work great for this.. and with a blizzard well under way up here in the northeast.. I will soon get a chance to find out..
Thanks for all the good information GreyGoat.

I am very interested in what happens today too. I am very tempted to get a pair. I have to do some shoveling today too I am in Rhode Island.

Then I'm going for a ride with my old fashion goggles.
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no problem, I think you would be happy with these.. I know I am thrilled.. I couldn't find anything that would keep the frigid air off my eyes without fogging up.. and i was looking thru the internet at paintball masks with goggles to see if maybe they might be a viable alternative. While looking I happened to trip over these recall notices for a brand of paintball mask that had a fan in it.. I then went searching for the combination of goggles and fan and found these Smiths.. I couldn't beleive I hadn't heard about them before...
My earlier comments about having gone with medium size instead of the large got me thinking, the mediums might not work as well.. The large OTG(over the glasses) model is deep front to back to allow room for glasses without pushing them into your face.. this also leave rooms for massive vents(which these have, covered with foam)..so tho the medium might be less bulky, I suspect they may not work as well under load....good luck with the snow in RI.. looks like we wont get as much here in NY as we thought we might, but should still see 10 inches... I snuck in a 10miler at the front end of the storm and like you, will get a ride in once I get my shoveling work done.. have fun!
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here's a pic of the goggles..
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the switch slides foreward and backward for hi and lo and center for off.. easily operated with a big glove on your hand..
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the switch slides foreward and backward for hi and lo and center for off.. easily operated with a big glove on your hand..
Is that the fan in the center of the top?
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What kind of battery is required and how long does it last?

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the fan is at the center of the top yes... its smaller than a quarter.... runs on two AAA batteries and they claim a pair of batteries will last multiple seasons using mostly the low setting.. I had to replace the batteries already, but these are an 04 model and who knows how long they have been around.. I seldom use the hi setting for anything... even walking into the house after my ride with them still on and fan on lo I do not fog....
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these could be great for a lot of outdoor activities, the only draw back might be if you had to try to field swap the batteries it could be a hassle. The compartment has 4 small screws holding the cover on.. For the riding I do, 1-2hours at a pop it's perfect... nice to be able to stop and not immediately fog up...if you ever happen to start to you can still flip the switch to hi temporarily to keep you clear..
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also the fan pulls air out, so air is not blowing on you, it's pullin in from all around the goggles massive vents..
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If your glasses are fogging up,try this.Spray a light coat of hair spray.Then wipe it off.Works great on bathroom mirrors too.
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If your glasses are fogging up,try this.Spray a light coat of hair spray.Then wipe it off.Works great on bathroom mirrors too.
Automotive windshield washer fluid works pretty well in my experience. Just wash the goggles/glasses with a rag that is dappened withthe stuff.
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tried this .....FogTech. stopped the fogging and lasts for a long time
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The last couple of winters I've been using normal (as in not expensive) double-paned ski goggles. It's been as cold as -35C and fogging hasn't been a problem.

The key is the double-pane. GOTTA have that to prevent fogging.
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I tried those.. and yes as long as you were moving they were ok.. not great.. but as soon as you had to stop you would fog.. and it also would depend on the intensity.. if you had to climb anything steep enough to slow you down while increasing you heat output.. it would again fog.. not everybody is going to drop the dime for a set of goggles with a fan.. but for those tired of whiping crap in the lens every ride or those that are tired of fogging as soon as you stop or slow down enough to not have enough air movement with a passive system to keep up.. the active system is awesome.. I will never go back.. I can do ints in these and still walk in the house with them on afterwards and never fog.. you just cant beat that with any passive system without letting a lot of cold air all over the eyeballs..
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I tried those.. and yes as long as you were moving they were ok.. not great.. but as soon as you had to stop you would fog.. and it also would depend on the intensity.. if you had to climb anything steep enough to slow you down while increasing you heat output.. it would again fog...
No....stopping or increased intensity doesn't seem to cause my ski goggles to fog. I wonder if it's because the climate here is extremely dry (just guessing). Or maybe it's because my goggles are well ventilated? I dunno. Skiers wear these all day in cold weather and they seem OK.

But if the little fan thing works for you that's great. I'm just pointing out an alternative.
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yeah could be the very dry cold helps.. seems like the colder it is the less trouble i have too..
skiers can get away with goggles without trouble because they dont generate as much eat using gravity for their momentum.. downhill anyway.. nordic skiers cant get away with it as easily.. especially at race pace.. I dont commute in the winter anymore, but where this could have really been a bennifit is in traffic when you have to stop at a light for instance.. they would fog enough to make it cloudy until you got enough wind going again.. i only use these when its pretty cold.. I have a pair of BugZ Lunaz that I use when the wind chill isnt as dangeous... I have other uses for the fan goggles too.. they are great for shoveling snow and snow blowin.. but heck with cold and snow anyway.. bring in the rain!!!!!... wash away the salt..
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I got the Smith Regulator goggle with the fan, and also bought their Optical Docking System for my prescription lenses. The system works well, although it does take up a little more of my peripheral vision than bolle goggles did. The Smith goggles also put a little more pressure on my nose, so breathing can be a little more effort. If you ski with a Leedom helmet, the Smith strap will not fit into the gogle strap teeth in the helmet. The goggles are a complete cure for fogging, including fogged glasses.

BTW- if you need to get your prescription made into lenses, Walmart charged me a total of $40 for lenses and installation.
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skiers can get away with goggles without trouble because they dont generate as much heat using gravity for their momentum.. downhill anyway
You are right ...except on powder days. Skiing powder days make you sweat and then the goggles fog. I have a pair of the Turbos too. They rock! I especially like them when I'm skiing backcountry. Foggy goggles are the pits.

BTW, NEVER, EVER apply anything to the inside of a new goggles lens. Most goggles today have a treatment on the inside of the lens that will smear if you wipe it, much less apply any product on it.
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