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    There is plenty of reasons that could lead to cold feet:

    -the icy pedal that conduct cold to the foot
    -the pressure between the pedal and the foot that restrict blood flow
    -the shape of the pedals that affect the type of pressure on the foot and the air flow around the foot
    -the type of materials used in pedals that affect the level of insulation of pedals
    -the pedal fixation system (straps, pins, clipless..)
    -cold wind which attack the foot from front
    -too tight shoes/boots
    -the shape of your shoes/boots
    -not thick enough soles
    -too tight socks
    -how clean your socks are
    -how old your shoes/boots are
    -the type of shoes/boots (winter/summer cycling shoes, water resistant/proof boots, winter boots...)
    -the type of insulation of the shoes/boots/socks
    -the layer configuration that affect the wicking ability and effectiveness of the insulation
    -where the insulation is on the shoes/boots
    -shoes with not high enough shafts that let cold wind reach the ankle
    -shoes/boots breathability
    -the saddle that restrict blood flow preventing warm blood from reaching correctly the foot
    -health condition
    -how you sweat from your feet
    -what you ate before your commute
    -the lack of layers on the upper body/head/legs
    -the type of garment you're wearing (windproof or not...)
    -the direction of the wind during your commute
    -the length of your commute
    -at what time you commute
    -the type of commute (one shot or with few stops, stop length...)
    -where you put your feet when you stop
    -the kind of commute (busy roads with cars passing by, through traffic or alone on the road)
    -the level of intensity of your effort
    -how warm your body is when you go out
    -the room temperature where your shoes/boots were
    -the time elapsed between the moment you put your shoes/boots on and the time you reach outside
    -the time elapsed between each time you put your shoes/boots on (humidity)
    -the humidity level inside your house and outside
    -the temperature outside
    -the variation of temperature during your commute
    -the sunlight variations during your commute
    -the road conditions (around freezing temp with half frozen water on the ground or dry roads, snow...)

    -and probably more...
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    just reading that gives me cold feet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yo Spiff View Post
    I ordered the Exustar shoes I was asking about above from Nashbar today. I ordered them one metric size larger on the theory that I am a winter wimp and need extra space for more layers of socks. They had one of their 20% off your entire order sales going, so that made it only $100 +tax & shipping. I'll update when I get them.
    They've got 30% of shoes today only, so anybody who was thinking about doing this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cplager View Post
    They've got 30% of shoes today only, so anybody who was thinking about doing this...
    Of course after I buy them, they offer a better deal!
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    For the really cold stuff 4°f and below I break out the NEOS Explorer Overshoes. They will handle anything that my area has to offer. I found out about them from folks who ride the Iditarod Trail Invitational. If its good enough for them, then its good enough for me. I've only had them for a few years, and the coldest I wore them was -6°f. My feet were just as toasty as they were when I started out 45 mins earlier.
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    Erig, You ride a bike with $8 platform pedals and $200 Yukon Jacks?

    Rock on, dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyBing View Post
    Erig, You ride a bike with $8 platform pedals and $200 Yukon Jacks?

    Rock on, dude.
    Not 8$ but 40$ platform pedals.

    The mukluks solution is not bike exclusive. I don't use them only when i'm on my bike but everywhere i go. Kind of "boots" that you keep 20 years and wear them all the time. Like with snowshoes for instance. The camukxtreme mukluks that i have being waterproof i'm not even looking when i put my feet into puddles or around freezing temp when there is slush everywhere in town.
    Plus mukluks in general not this one in particular are comfy like nothing on the market (except maybe some diving boots)
    But the big plus for me is that mukluks are extra wide for my extra wide feet and have extra room on the top of the toes. Good luck to find something like this on the market. Most of them are basic medium size boots/shoes which means that to have extra width you need to go way off in length. And those that are made for big feet are pretty limited in style (cf army boots)

    Anyway, you know the pros and cons of winter boots and mukluks.
    If you don't plan to ride at -30F/-40F then those mukluks are not necessary since there are plenty of boots available on the market that can handle -20F (and if you don't need extra width)

    Look at the northern outfitters' one if you really wanna know what overkill means.

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    Anyone know where to get a winter shoe 50 maybe 52?
    I'm running Crank Brothers Candies, but will swap peddles if necessary...

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    I got the Exustar shoes in today. They don't seem to have very thick insulation, perhaps an extra layer compared to my usual riding shoes. But unlike my other shoes, they are a solid coated leather with no ventilation. I ordered the size 44, instead of the 43 I normally wear and they seem to fit well. Not a lot of excess room, so a size up was a good choice. Since they are leather, I presume they should break in with some comfort. The test will be when I hit the first day in the low 40's. (Yes, I know that is warm springtime weather for some of you folks, but in Texas I only need something that works in the 30 and 40° range.)

    They also have optional metal spikes for the soles and a driver key to install them.
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    I have winter MTB shoes (Shimano MT60), shoe covers (Sugoi Resistors) and regular winter boots on SPD/platform pedals. Wore the winter shoes for the first time today with temps in the upper 30s. Supplement the shoes with one or two pairs of wool socks. Good down to the single digits, and probably lower, but at that point, I drive the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yo Spiff View Post
    I got the Exustar shoes in today. They don't seem to have very thick insulation, perhaps an extra layer compared to my usual riding shoes. But unlike my other shoes, they are a solid coated leather with no ventilation. I ordered the size 44, instead of the 43 I normally wear and they seem to fit well. Not a lot of excess room, so a size up was a good choice. Since they are leather, I presume they should break in with some comfort. The test will be when I hit the first day in the low 40's. (Yes, I know that is warm springtime weather for some of you folks, but in Texas I only need something that works in the 30 and 40° range.)

    They also have optional metal spikes for the soles and a driver key to install them.
    I wore mine (Louis Gareau 0 degree) for the first time today too.

    They aren't quite as warm as I hoped, but I have room for more socks.

    The biggest problem I have is that I ride a recumbent and the flats of my feet are facing the wind. There seems to be some seepage of air where the cleats attach, but I have some ideas how to help with that...
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    For cooler weather I can wear my touring shoes (spd) with a pair of thicker wool socks, they are a half size bigger than my road / mtb shoes and can accommodate a felt pack insole and I have sealed the cleat to prevent water from getting in.

    For wetter and/or colder I can add a shoe cover and be good to -15C

    Beyond that it is boots all the way as they don't require the extra cover and are also sized up from my regular shoes as to accommodate thicker socks or layers of socks.

    My Asolo hiking boots are pretty high tech gearand were purchased off the demo rack for $25.00, they normally retail for close to $300.00. With a base sock and thicker wool sock I am going to be good well into the -20's. Because they are waterproof and breathable they are also a very functional boot at warmer and wetter temps and have good hookup.



    When it gets colder and for when I am travelling by car I will either wear or pack boots with a -40C rating that also have an added felt pack... the T-Max insulation in these is really outstanding and with only a lighter weight wool sock these boots are really toasty and the tread compound sticks to ice like nothing else.





    I also have neoprene covers for my road shoes and mtb shoes for temps that hover around freezing and Yak Trax cleats that I can add to my hiking boots and regular shoes and boots for added traction on ice.

    A key to keeping your feet warm in winter is to make sure you can wiggle your toes and maintain good circuclation, keeping the ankle and calf warm will prevent heat loss and result in warmer feet too.

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    I rode with the Exustar shoes for the first time yesterday morning. Temperature at 6 am was in the low 40's. (Two years ago this was the temperature that had me only wanting to get back into a warm house after 6 miles.) I had a single layer of wool socks on, but not my thickest ones. They are as easy to get on and off as normal warm weather riding shoes. I like that.

    My toes were just chilly enough that I could tell it was cold out, but nothing uncomfortable. Wiggling my toes was enough to shake that slight chill off. Several of the folks I was riding with were complaining about their toes being freezing cold in normal cycling shoes (hey, this is Texas, so we are all cold weather wimps!), so I'm sure my shoes were doing a decent job. I have enough room that I should be able to use my thicker socks and perhaps a silk sock liner as well. Also being leather, they should break in and get more comfortable with usage.

    On the return trip, the day had warmed up to over 50° and I could tell my feet were getting a bit toasty at this temperature.

    Nashbar only has them left in a size 43, which is my usual size. I bought them in a 44 and hindsight being 20/20, I would suggest to buy them 2 metric sizes larger if you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yo Spiff View Post
    I rode with the Exustar shoes for the first time yesterday morning. Temperature at 6 am was in the low 40's. (Two years ago this was the temperature that had me only wanting to get back into a warm house after 6 miles.) I had a single layer of wool socks on, but not my thickest ones. They are as easy to get on and off as normal warm weather riding shoes. I like that.

    My toes were just chilly enough that I could tell it was cold out, but nothing uncomfortable. Wiggling my toes was enough to shake that slight chill off. Several of the folks I was riding with were complaining about their toes being freezing cold in normal cycling shoes (hey, this is Texas, so we are all cold weather wimps!), so I'm sure my shoes were doing a decent job. I have enough room that I should be able to use my thicker socks and perhaps a silk sock liner as well. Also being leather, they should break in and get more comfortable with usage.

    On the return trip, the day had warmed up to over 50° and I could tell my feet were getting a bit toasty at this temperature.

    Nashbar only has them left in a size 43, which is my usual size. I bought them in a 44 and hindsight being 20/20, I would suggest to buy them 2 metric sizes larger if you can.
    Spiff: You may consider neoprene socks. They rock in the cold months. They do make your feet sweat but thay keep you very toasty. Its my first go to before my winter shoes. This morning I rode in.... 35 degrees.... 26 with wind chill. Shorts, three base layers, buff for my head, full gloves, socks, and shoes. Felt great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefisaac View Post
    Spiff: You may consider neoprene socks. They rock in the cold months.
    Hadn't even known of neoprene socks. I'll have to go have a look and try some.
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    If you go the hiking boot route. I would recommend primaloft insulation over the thinsulate. I found out online that primaloft has twice the R value of thinsulate. And thru my own personal testing I did a few years ago trying to decide between which boot to buy. I wore a snow sneaker on one foot and the thinsulate boot on the other. It was about 12f outside. And within five minutes the thinsulate boot started getting uncomfortable. Twenty minutes later into my morning commute, that foot was pretty darn cold. I sent it back for a refund and kept the LL Bean Snowsneaker. That was six years ago, and I'm still using them.
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    I wear gaitors when it gets real cold out. They keep the snow and cold out of the top of my boot. The boots are good down to about 5f.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Null66 View Post
    Anyone know where to get a winter shoe 50 maybe 52?
    I'm running Crank Brothers Candies, but will swap peddles if necessary...
    50 is what size 15-16? Cycling shoes this size? Volvhammer from 45nrth size "50"

    Here are a few links of large shoes/boots:

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_...nid=1285068011

    http://www.zappos.com/men-boots/CK_X...opularity/asc/

    http://www.2bigfeet.com/mens_size_17.php

    http://www.famousfootwear.com/en-US/...px?nodefault=1

    http://www.onlineshoes.com/mens-shoe...z71.73.75,as53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yo Spiff View Post
    That makes sense. I'm just concerned about warmth. It doesn't snow a lot here in Texas and I don't ride in it the once in a while when it does. On the other hand, that could be fun.
    Riding in snow and ice is much fun. On ice you get to go forwards, backwards, sideways, and sometimes even upside down if you don't have studded tires. I wanna make pedal tracks in the snow again like I did when I was a kid. (studded tires for a bike did not exist then - unless you made your own and I never did)

    I wear -50 degree muclucks and use platform pedals in the winter. Also wear a snowmobile suit. I don't like being cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bicyclridr4life View Post

    I wear -50 degree muclucks and use platform pedals in the winter. Also wear a snowmobile suit. I don't like being cold.
    And you apparently live in Florida. Oh my... this is no joke

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    THANK YOU!

    I'm a 13, but wide and thick... Girthy....

    I think that the Garneau's are cut really small.

    The 48 was fine length wise, just very snug tall, and snug wide...

    I've got a pair of 48 45nrth's in the mail. Unfortunately, I ordered the wrong cleat (I need 2 hole, not 3)... So if they fit, they still have to go back. But if they fit I'll order the 2-hole then and if not then there's one size up that's left, so I'll order that...

    I'm trying to stay clipped in. My commute is 25 miles 1 way and well, at the edge of my capabilities as it is. So loosing the clip in might be more performance loss then I can make up for (until I get in better shape, that is)...

    It doesn't get too cold here. 30's and usually dry. I commuted by Motorcycle for years so I'm aware of the winters. It is just that my cold tolerance is cruddy especially extremities...

    Thanks for the help. Will keep it in mind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Null66 View Post
    I'm a 13, but wide and thick... Girthy....

    I think that the Garneau's are cut really small.
    So we have the same foot. Good to know if i ever decide to go for winter cycling shoes.
    I know what you mean about louis garneau, 1 in 10 fit. Most of their gloves are too small for me, idem for the jackets and bibs depending if the gear can stretch or not. And when it fits it's nearly impossible to layer. Maybe, if it was Louis Gorilla...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Null66 View Post
    THANK YOU!

    I'm a 13, but wide and thick... Girthy....

    I think that the Garneau's are cut really small.

    The 48 was fine length wise, just very snug tall, and snug wide...

    I've got a pair of 48 45nrth's in the mail. Unfortunately, I ordered the wrong cleat (I need 2 hole, not 3)... So if they fit, they still have to go back. But if they fit I'll order the 2-hole then and if not then there's one size up that's left, so I'll order that...

    I'm trying to stay clipped in. My commute is 25 miles 1 way and well, at the edge of my capabilities as it is. So loosing the clip in might be more performance loss then I can make up for (until I get in better shape, that is)...

    It doesn't get too cold here. 30's and usually dry. I commuted by Motorcycle for years so I'm aware of the winters. It is just that my cold tolerance is cruddy especially extremities...

    Thanks for the help. Will keep it in mind!
    I use mtb cleats and ordered the 3 hole version of the louis garneau boots, ( sale was too good to pass on). To make things work i bought the spd cleat adaptor. Allows for 2hole on 3 hole shoes. Also makes walking abit easier and removes issue of the cleat in contact with the ground. If your shoes fit and you dont want to return, or cant get in your size, an option to keep your cleat/pedal setup.
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    Keen hiking boots with platform pin pedals. Never had a problem with cold feet, but mind you, I seem to be part polar bear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cplager View Post
    I just ordered and received a pair of these Louis Garneau 0 Degree Ergo Grip:



    I think they'll do nicely (but I'll report back once it actually gets cold).
    used these last year, down to -7F.

    highly recommend getting 100% wool felt insoles with reflective material base. incredible difference.

    lugs are very hard, little dicey on wet tile floors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGNY View Post
    used these last year, down to -7F.

    highly recommend getting 100% wool felt insoles with reflective material base. incredible difference.

    lugs are very hard, little dicey on wet tile floors.
    Do you know where these insoles can be purchased? Thanks.

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