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Old 11-08-13, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RGNY
used these last year, down to -7F.

highly recommend getting 100% wool felt insoles with reflective material base. incredible difference.

lugs are very hard, little dicey on wet tile floors.
I think that insoles might help a lot (particularly because I ride a recumbent and the bottom of my feet face the wind).

Where did you get yours?

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https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...felt%20insoles
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All those options above are good. I use Keen boots. I throw a chemical pack heater in when it gets real cold. Check out Power Grips if you want to be able to "pedal in circles" with boots. They are easy to use and work very well. I use them all winter unless I'm on serious glare ice then I flip my pedals over. I hate Sorels. Heavy...and the wool liners just get wetter and wetter and wetter. When I used to wear them I'd wear some kind of vapor barrier liner to keep the liner dry.
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Originally Posted by scoatw
If you go the hiking boot route. I would recommend primaloft insulation over the thinsulate. I found out online that primaloft has twice the R value of thinsulate. And thru my own personal testing I did a few years ago trying to decide between which boot to buy. I wore a snow sneaker of one foot and the thinsulate boot on the other. It was about 12f outside. And within five minutes the thinsulate boot started getting uncomfortable. Twenty minutes later into my morning commute, that foot was pretty darn cold. I sent it back for a refund and kept the LL Bean Snowsneaker. That was six years ago, and I'm still using them.
the LL Beans look like a viable replacement for these Teva's I bought last year which pretty much suck. The Teva's have 200g thinsulate so I'm concerned about getting the same amount of primaloft in the Beans. Do you remember how much thinsulate was in the boots you used for the comparison?
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Originally Posted by Juha
Another platform pedals + regular winter boots commuter here. I use felt insoles in the boots, and 1-2 wool sock layers.

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#10 on platform pedals and winter boots. It's a heck of a lot cheaper than fancy winter riding boots and pedals and works great when the weather is crummy.
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Got a cyber Monday email from REI with these Baffin's on sale. Great price and very tempting, though I'm not sure I could even feel the pedal through them!
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Don't even own a set, and haven't seen anyone riding with them, but I bet a pair of either mickey mouse boots or bunny boots would keep the toes warm in the worst of cold. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunny_boots Right now my cold weather riding shoes are a pair of Hi-Tech hikers with wool socks. Open to change as I experiment with 20* F and colder biking.
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I ordered these on Cyber Monday today.

I have been trying to continue using my spd's for the efficiency it gives me and now especially with winter being here and the studded tires and all, I need all the help I can get because my commute has been increased by 10 miles this year to a total of 31 miles round trip. I spend 3 hours per day on the bike so I felt these were worth it. My regular shoes with the neoprene booties helped but it just wasn't enough for below 20degF. Last year I used the insulated hiking boots with platform pedals and I was always nice and comfortable. I hope these are just as good with the added benefit of using my cleats.
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I guess some folks are determined to use clipless as much as other are determined not to..........interesting :-)
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Originally Posted by lenA
I guess some folks are determined to use clipless as much as other are determined not to..........interesting :-)
Yeah, the clipless help alot for efficiency even though they are a pain to use and make it hard to stay warm unless you get insulated cycling boots. So if your rides are fairly long, and your fighting all the gremlins that winter brings, one needs all the help he/she can get.
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Originally Posted by arsprod
the LL Beans look like a viable replacement for these Teva's I bought last year which pretty much suck. The Teva's have 200g thinsulate so I'm concerned about getting the same amount of primaloft in the Beans. Do you remember how much thinsulate was in the boots you used for the comparison?
200 grams. the thinsulate doesn't compare to the primaloft. IMO
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Originally Posted by scoatw
200 grams. the thinsulate doesn't compare to the primaloft. IMO
Thanks - unless I come across a great deal I'm going to try these
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Originally Posted by droy45
Yeah, the clipless help alot for efficiency even though they are a pain to use and make it hard to stay warm unless you get insulated cycling boots. So if your rides are fairly long, and your fighting all the gremlins that winter brings, one needs all the help he/she can get.
I agree. I'm using my Northwave Artics SPD as long as I can this winter with my fat bike. I've found that I can get unclipped just as fast as I can get a big ol' insulated boot off of a platform pedal.
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Originally Posted by droy45
I ordered these on Cyber Monday today.

I have been trying to continue using my spd's for the efficiency it gives me and now especially with winter being here and the studded tires and all, I need all the help I can get because my commute has been increased by 10 miles this year to a total of 31 miles round trip. I spend 3 hours per day on the bike so I felt these were worth it. My regular shoes with the neoprene booties helped but it just wasn't enough for below 20degF. Last year I used the insulated hiking boots with platform pedals and I was always nice and comfortable. I hope these are just as good with the added benefit of using my cleats.
After you get some miles in them give us a good review. I'm in the market for a new pair of winter shoes. I have the 0 Degree Ergo Grip pictured in the post below and not really all that happy with them.
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Originally Posted by stevemtbr
After you get some miles in them give us a good review. I'm in the market for a new pair of winter shoes. I have the 0 Degree Ergo Grip pictured in the post below and not really all that happy with them.
I think I'm not terribly happy with my 0 Degree Ergo Grip either. They just aren't warm enough. I use wool socks, have a wool insole, and even used silicon to cover the metal holes as much as possible (which helps), but my feet still get cold.
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I use these in the winter time: https://brandscycle.com/product/45nor...FfJxOgodQ2sAEQ

Has to be 25 or lower or raining and really cold, snowing, or icy.
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I got to test my 45 North Wolvehammers yesterday. It was snowing and my ride started at 5 degrees F and ended a little below 0. The ride lasted about 2.5 hours. I wore one pair of mid weight wool socks. The ride also consisted of about 2 miles of having to walk the bike where conditions were to bad to ride. My feet were toasty warm the whole time. They also were not bad for walking. These are expensive boots but I think they are very good.
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Originally Posted by costelde
I got to test my 45 North Wolvehammers yesterday. It was snowing and my ride started at 5 degrees F and ended a little below 0. The ride lasted about 2.5 hours. I wore one pair of mid weight wool socks. The ride also consisted of about 2 miles of having to walk the bike where conditions were to bad to ride. My feet were toasty warm the whole time. They also were not bad for walking. These are expensive boots but I think they are very good.
Expensive agreed but they are awesome!
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Originally Posted by stevemtbr
After you get some miles in them give us a good review. I'm in the market for a new pair of winter shoes. I have the 0 Degree Ergo Grip pictured in the post below and not really all that happy with them.
Yup, I will. I gave the 0 degree ergo grip some thought too at first but read a lot of reviews and decided that if I am going to spend 3 hours per day on the bike commuting to work and back that the better boots would be worth it. There is nothing wrong with the ones you have now but they are designed for cold weather and not the brutal hard core stuff. The 0 degree LS100 have more insulation and are not simple a cycling shoe wrapped in neoprene. They are a fully insulated cycling boot not a shoe.
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Originally Posted by costelde
I got to test my 45 North Wolvehammers yesterday. It was snowing and my ride started at 5 degrees F and ended a little below 0. The ride lasted about 2.5 hours. I wore one pair of mid weight wool socks. The ride also consisted of about 2 miles of having to walk the bike where conditions were to bad to ride. My feet were toasty warm the whole time. They also were not bad for walking. These are expensive boots but I think they are very good.
Are you riding the boots with the SPD cleat? If so have you had any problems with the boot hitting the crank arm?
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WHAT A FRUSTRATING EXPERIENCE THIS HAS BEEN!

I tried the Garneau's...
Way, way too narrow! Way, way too short in height...
Returned those.

Believed the size chart, ordered a 48 in Northwave's GTX boots
Gorgeous shoes, mostly fit, slightly snug but would work.
The tread is incredibly slick.
I have really appreciated my Keen sandals. You can walk around comfortably the cleats barely click.
My SO and riding partner, has some cool specialized shoes and speed play pedals. Great on the bike, but she has a lot of trouble walking around even with the covers and she's way, way, way, more coordinated then I am.
I could just see myself slipping and falling on the way in to work and busting something.
Returned.

Each time purchase price went WAY up, and of course there's the return shipping costs...

Ok, so the shoes I first saw but were not widely available 45N FasterKatts. They look warmer.
The sizes seem all over the map for each manufacturer. I decided to order by the size chart. Came up as 47.
Ordered those, too damn tight.
Those went back.
Very nice boots, so ordered 48, still too damn tight.
Those went back.

I gave up.
Really bummed.
I have gout. I have to keep hands and feet warm, else severe pain.
I really like commuting. It has done wonders for my riding, my health, my weight, but mostly my well being.
I move next year. Commute would be 40 miles EACH way. A really nice ride and achievable if I can stay in shape this winter and get a bit faster. But this would mean I HAVE to ride this winter. I can lighten my bike by quite a bit and ensure I don't carry things by bringing them to work the day before... I can recharge the lights at work...

Just leaves me and my conditioning...
SO BUMMED! SO VERY BUMMED!

Then Brands called to straighten out why I returned a 47 when the last order was a 48...
I explained everything and the customer support person suggested these:

https://brandscycle.com/product/lake-...wide-25227.htm

again a major jump in price, but hope that I can ride this winter!
OBTW, I have been wimping out on rides with my SO because of the cold. I caught her actually petting her bike this week when walking by it...

Trying to reassure myself about the price and return shipping... I tried to find comparisons of the Fasterkatts and the Lake 303-x when I found several, bordering on many reports of zipper failures with Fasterkatts...

I just received the Lakes'. They fit marvelously! My right foot is having a swollen with gout and still fits!

I can't believe there is a good chance I can ride this winter!
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Originally Posted by stevemtbr
Are you riding the boots with the SPD cleat? If so have you had any problems with the boot hitting the crank arm?
I am riding the boots with the the SPD cleat. I did have to adjust the cleat placement to stop a little bit of rubbing on the crank arm.
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Originally Posted by droy45
I ordered these on Cyber Monday today.

I have been trying to continue using my spd's for the efficiency it gives me and now especially with winter being here and the studded tires and all, I need all the help I can get because my commute has been increased by 10 miles this year to a total of 31 miles round trip. I spend 3 hours per day on the bike so I felt these were worth it. My regular shoes with the neoprene booties helped but it just wasn't enough for below 20degF. Last year I used the insulated hiking boots with platform pedals and I was always nice and comfortable. I hope these are just as good with the added benefit of using my cleats.
i have been using those for a month now, down to -12*C, so far very happy with them. Even just with light summer weight socks.

rain, snow and cold, so far.
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Originally Posted by wapiti
i have been using those for a month now, down to -12*C, so far very happy with them. Even just with light summer weight socks.

rain, snow and cold, so far.
Great, that's good to know. I just received them yesterday and have not actually used them yet. I tried them on and even though I ordered a size larger than my regular LG shoes I still found them to be somewhat small. I usually use a very thick wool sock but won't be able to use that with these. I tried them with a standard thinner wool sock and they seem fine. I was a little concerned that they may not be warm enough but I noticed when I put them on and walked around the house, they felt very warm so like you said, it might be fine with a lightweight sock. Thanks for the feedback.
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